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Lucem Ferre 03-20-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1815301)
I wanted to comment on this silly remark earlier because it's coming from you, the guy who claims that music made in a studio is better than anything else. Studio recording is considered labeling something.

Oh, you mean the time that I kept satirically rubbing in your faces that I record in the studio because it pissed you off and it was funny?


Elph, no, I say that because most people don't fully align with one side or the other and the only reason you pick a side is because you are too lazy and dumb to think for yourself.

Paul Smeenus 03-20-2017 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rostasi (Post 1815448)
Rubio in 2016:

RUBIO: ...and obviously we all understand the importance of this presidential race.
I would just ask everybody this:
Can this country afford to have a president under investigation by the FBI?

AUDIENCE: No!

RUBIO: Think of the trauma that this would do to this country. <sic>


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...aaca308181.jpg

Janszoon 03-21-2017 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1815418)
Our system exists because the rural South wouldn't have ratified the Constitution if they hadn't have had a voting counterweight against the more populous North. ****ty, especially since cities have an even greater share of the population today, but just a political necessity at the time.

The funny part is that the immediate effect of that system was to give Virgina an enormous advantage over the rest of the states.

djchameleon 03-21-2017 08:25 AM

Here is a bit of wishful thinking, the only thing is that I only see two possible sources to this so I'm pretty sure it's not accurate. I didn't check her twitter to see if she really said those things either.

Quote:

Donald Trump is going to “get himself out of office soon”, a leading Democratic senator has claimed.

Dianne Feinstein suggested the President would quit before he was potentially forced out of office after anti-Trump protesters in Los Angeles demanded to know why more wasn’t being done by Congress to remove him from office.

“We know he is breaking the law every day," a protester asked the 83-year-old political veteran. "He has obvious dealings with Russia. There’s so many things he’s doing that are unconstitutional. How are we going to get him out?”

Hinting she might know more than she is able to let on, Ms Feinstein, who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, replied: “We have a lot of people looking into this. I think he’s going to get himself out.”
Source: Donald Trump will resign 'soon', says top Democrat Dianne Feinstein | The Independent

Chula Vista 03-22-2017 07:40 PM

This Devin Nunes story today is taking the absurd to completely new levels.

Nunes, top republican on the House Intelligence committee, who along with democrat Adam Schiff, are heading up the investigations into the possible Russia links to the Trump campaign and White House.

Without informing Schiff or the rest of the comittee he talks to the press this morning to say that some Trump communications may have been intercepted as part of standard US intelligence surveilence operations this past fall. He then rushes to the White House to brief Trump.

This is so wrong and messed up on so many levels.

1. Nunes offered up zero proof.
2. He's co-heading up an investigation yet divulges possibly classified information to not only the press, but also one of the people being investigated - Trump.
3. He didn't consult with the committee or Schiff, who found out about it through CNN. Schiff was visibly pissed when interviewed afterwards.
4. When asked later Trump said he felt somewhat vindicated - even though Nunes reiterated that there's zero proof of Trumps wire tap claims. He did go on to repeat Trumps walk back that wiretap was a generalization.
5. Tomorrow is the House vote on Trumpcare.it.

The legal analysists are almost speechless when asked about

Stephen 03-22-2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1815473)
Here is a bit of wishful thinking, the only thing is that I only see two possible sources to this so I'm pretty sure it's not accurate. I didn't check her twitter to see if she really said those things either.

Source: Donald Trump will resign 'soon', says top Democrat Dianne Feinstein | The Independent

You know the scene in Scarface - "Say hello to my little friend". That's how Trump's presidency ends.

Frownland 03-22-2017 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1815992)
You know the scene in Scarface - "Say hello to my little friend". That's how Trump's presidency ends.

If he does then he'll be my favourite president ever.

The Batlord 03-22-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1815995)
If he does then he'll be my favourite president ever.

So long as it happens in an open session of Congress.

Lucem Ferre 03-22-2017 11:46 PM

Remember that part where, like, his sister tries to seduce him and he wasn't really opposing it? That'll be Trump's daughter.

Frownland 03-22-2017 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1816037)
Remember that part where, like, his sister tries to seduce him and he wasn't really opposing it? That'll be Trump's daughter.

I wanted to make this joke but I didn't remember any quotes from that scene and my half assed google search didn't turn up any so I moved on and didn't finish writing the post.

RoxyRollah 03-23-2017 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1815443)
Not really, no.

You're a communist ...I wouldn't expect anything less from you.


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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1815454)
How are you this ignorant as to what the issue is

Umm. I asked you a question, I never stated my opinion. I'm not naïve or ignorant as to what the issues are. I asked you a simple question.

DwnWthVwls 03-23-2017 05:08 AM

:wavey::wavey:

Frownland 03-23-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1816047)
You're a communist ...I wouldn't expect anything less from you.

Yes, me thinking that America practices pseudo capitalism makes me a communist...if you're a fascist.

Chula Vista 03-23-2017 10:34 AM

Well that didn't take long for Nunes to have to eat some crow.

Nunes apologizes to House Intel Committee, member says - CNNPolitics.com

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Nunes, a member of the Trump's transition team executive committee, set off a stunning new political controversy Wednesday when he headed to the White House to personally brief President Donald Trump on the revelations. Despite being advised against doing so, sources said Nunes met with Republican members of the Intelligence Committee before his news conference, but did not share information with the Democrats on the committee.
I think he should recllluse himself from the investigation.

Frownland 03-23-2017 11:14 AM

*refuse

DwnWthVwls 03-23-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1816075)
*refuse

*fuck off

Anteater 03-23-2017 06:46 PM

The laughter never ends. :D :D :D

https://image.ibb.co/nDcx0a/Obama_Gate.jpg

Raust 03-23-2017 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816149)
The laughter never ends. :D :D :D

https://image.ibb.co/nDcx0a/Obama_Gate.jpg

Ha KEK
:laughing::laughing::laughing:

The Batlord 03-23-2017 06:59 PM

Actually that's just a ****ty political joke that only biased people from the opposite party ever laugh at.

OccultHawk 03-23-2017 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1816152)
Actually that's just a ****ty political joke that only biased people from the opposite party ever laugh at.

I think the word "joke" is generous.

The Batlord 03-23-2017 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1816154)
I think the word "joke" is generous.

Yes.

Anteater 03-23-2017 08:08 PM

I thought the SNL skits about Trump were hilarious though, and that's about as mocking toward him as it gets. You guys need more flexibility.

riseagainstrocks 03-23-2017 08:25 PM

You outlined alt-right talking points with unflattering pictures. That's literally what they think happened. I don't get how that's a joke.

The difference between that and the SNL Trump send ups (which are frankly hit or miss with me) are they exaggerate character flaws and mock his fragile ego. They hardly touch on actual policy because the circus is where the humor is. An equivalent joke with Obama would be if he's so zen he ignores the fire burning his house down or something or speaking more "black" to an all black audience and giving a "white" version of the speech to a white crowd.

inb4 no sense of humor

Chula Vista 03-23-2017 08:27 PM

It is a pretty lame joke considering Obama's legacy is doing just fine. The more buyers remorse sets in the better Obama looks in hindsight.

Did ya see the recent Fox News poll on Trumpcare? The majority of Republicans are against it.

27% because it doesn't change Obamacare enough.

66% because it changes Obamacare too much.

Read that last sentence again. 2 out of 3 Republicans hating Trumpcare because it messes with Obamacare too much.

:D:D:D:D

OccultHawk 03-23-2017 08:31 PM

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Read that last sentence again. 2 out of 3 Republicans hating Trumpcare because it messes with Obamacare too much.
I saw that on CNN today and practically had to go beat off. Some Repugs actually think it's too liberal though. As long as it doesn't pass I'm cool.

The Batlord 03-23-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816159)
I thought the SNL skits about Trump were hilarious though, and that's about as mocking toward him as it gets. You guys need more flexibility.

SNL is trash though and their political sketches are cringey as ****.

Anteater 03-23-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1816166)
SNL is trash though and there political sketches are cringey as ****.

I enjoy a lot of things ironically. Except yacht rock and smooth jazz. Those are foh realioz.

Anteater 03-23-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816161)
It is a pretty lame joke considering Obama's legacy is doing just fine. The more buyers remorse sets in the better Obama looks in hindsight.

Did ya see the recent Fox News poll on Trumpcare? The majority of Republicans are against it.

27% because it doesn't change Obamacare enough.

66% because it changes Obamacare too much.

Read that last sentence again. 2 out of 3 Republicans hating Trumpcare because it messes with Obamacare too much.

:D:D:D:D

Why even cite a Fox News poll when I've seen you put them on the same level as Breitbart and Infowars? We don't tolerate no conservative bias 'round here!

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1816170)
Why are you obsessed with Obama still and why in this thread

Because he's still very relevant when discussing Trump. He's great meme material.

Anteater 03-23-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1816173)
No

And no

It's basically the most irrelevant unfunny thing in politics rn
It was an obvious and pathetic attempt of a dodge to begin with that only his most devout followers went slobbering after

Trump Tower was wiretapped by the FBI from 2011 to 2013, but for a supposedly unrelated investigation that had nothing to do with Trump himself. Plus it predated his bid for the presidency by at least a year. Still interesting though.

The joke becomes funnier the more information you actually have. And the reactions I'm seeing so far are just icing on the cake. :D

Chula Vista 03-23-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816172)
Why even cite a Fox News poll when I've seen you put them on the same level as Breitbart and Infowars?

You got the wrong guy. I've never compared Fox with either of those two. I used Fox because if I'd used CNN you would have come up with a similarly lame retort.

You got proof on that claim about the FBI and Trump Tower? Or you just throwing it out their to deflect from your terrible Obama joke?

Anteater 03-23-2017 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816176)
You got the wrong guy. I've never compared Fox with either of those two. I used Fox because if I'd used CNN you would have come up with a similarly lame retort.

You got proof on that claim about the FBI and Trump Tower? Or you just throwing it out their to deflect from your terrible Obama joke?

How 'bout some Newsweek?

The FBI Did Wiretap Trump Tower, But Not to Monitor Trump

You should know by now that I love to deal in facts, even if you disagree with my viewpoints on whatever is being discussed.

CNN and Fox are both equally "lame".

Anteater 03-23-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1816182)
This isn't actually what happened

More importantly, it's meaningless, it's a dodge

It doesn't even belong in this thread

Wrong again. If Trump Tower was ever wiretapped in the last few years by the FBI for any reason then that's a very big deal and justifies Trump's "feelings" so to speak. Why? Because unless you are completely naive, then it should be obvious that the FBI collected a fair amount of information beyond the confines of that particular investigation for that time period. You really think they only bugged one floor? I don't buy it, and nobody else will either.

Again, you can't have it both ways. If you, Chula, etc. are going to stick to the view that there's a possibility that Trump ever corroborated with Russia despite a lack of any hard evidence, then you need to acknowledge possibilities in regards to some of these other allegations too, especially considering what we know about the FBI and NSA's capabilities. They aren't paradigms of morality any more than Trump is: they're just a million times better at controlling their audit trail. The insinuation game works both ways, and the truth is always somewhere in the middle.

Either way, the whole thing is a clusterfuck that makes both Trump and our intelligence agencies look worse than they did before.

Chula Vista 03-23-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816181)
How 'bout some Newsweek?

So the FBI had a court approved warrant to tap some suspected Russian criminals renting space on the 63rd floor in Trump Tower?

And that relates to exactly what in regards to Trump?

Again, nice try at a deflect. And that poll is not a Fox News "story". It's just published poll results. Similar results have been posted by numerous sorces.

Bottom line: Trumpcare is going to be a major black eye for the Donald.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...care/21904839/

EDIT: The courts gave the FBI approval to tap ONLY the phones of those tenants. You're beginning to sound like Sean Spicer.

Anteater 03-23-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816185)
So the FBI had a court approved warrant to tap some suspected Russian criminals renting space on the 63rd floor in Trump Tower?

And that relates to exactly what in regards to Trump?

Again, nice try at a deflect. And that poll is not a Fox News "story". It's just published poll results. Similar results have been posted by numerous sorces.

Bottom line: Trumpcare is going to be a major black eye for the Donald.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...care/21904839/

EDIT: The courts gave the FBI approval to tap ONLY the phones of those tenants. You're beginning to sound like Sean Spicer.

Dude, I'm here anytime you are done missing the point completely. I'm sure the FBI would never, ever do anything outside of the bounds of legality. Go read my last post if the implications of all this are "lost" on you, especially since officials over the last week said Trump Tower was never wiretapped for any reason.

I've seen all the polls. You specifically cited a "Fox News poll". Don't be obtuse.

Chula Vista 03-23-2017 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1816186)
Dude, I'm here anytime you are done missing the point completely. I'm sure the FBI would never, ever do anything outside of the bounds of legality. Go read my last post if the implications of all this are "lost" on you, especially since officials over the last week said Trump Tower was never wiretapped for any reason.

I've seen all the polls. You specifically cited a "Fox News poll". Don't be obtuse.

Officials said that Trump was never tapped at Trump Tower. And the FBI taps of suspected Russian criminals is confidential government information. THE FBI HAS NEVER TAPPED TRUMP'S LINES AT TRUMP TOWER. The Russian taps were well before he even announced he was running for office for cripes sake.

I cited Fox for your benefit. If I'd cited anyone else you would have immediately dismissed it. Who's the one being obtuse here.

Your republican Trump boner is once again robbing your brain of blood. And don't bother with the same ole, same ole, "I'm not a republican and I don't even like Trump BS."

Your posts speak louder than your denial of the tone of your posts.

Anteater 03-24-2017 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1816188)
Officials said that Trump was never tapped at Trump Tower. And the FBI taps of suspected Russian criminals is confidential government information. THE FBI HAS NEVER TAPPED TRUMP'S LINES AT TRUMP TOWER. The Russian taps were well before he even announced he was running for office for cripes sake.

I cited Fox for your benefit. If I'd cited anyone else you would have immediately dismissed it. Who's the one being obtuse here.

Your republican Trump boner is once again robbing your brain of blood. And don't bother with the same ole, same ole, "I'm not a republican and I don't even like Trump BS."

Your posts speak louder than your denial of the tone of your posts.

1. Assumptions, and naive ones at that. You don't know what the FBI does or doesn't do, and Trump is right to be paranoid about them even if he's wrong about their method of surveillance. You only know what is told to you thirdhand from sources that have already filtered and scrubbed it down. As for me: one of my best friends and neighbors was part of the FBI for 30 years. The stuff that they do outside of what the media actually "knows" about would knock your socks off.

2. I think most polls are garbage regardless of who conducts them (having done that work myself long ago in college), so if you did it for my "benefit" then you messed up. At best, they provide a fractured picture from groups that are hardly representative of anything. People are having kneejerk reactions to the AHCA (and it does need a lot of work), but nobody really wants the ACA either as it is.

3. You should try demonstrating critical thinking in regards to our government regardless of who is or who is not in power. What I'm talking about is way more serious than Trump, a guy who won partly because of timing and will very likely lose his next bid for re-election once the incompetent Democrats get their shit together. He's a symptom of a greater set of problems, and this stuff with the FBI, the NSA, etc. should illustrate that better than anything else.

Frownland 03-24-2017 07:48 AM

Did you read the poll though?

Anteater 03-24-2017 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1816214)
Did you read the poll though?

Yep, he's talking about the most recent one. But if you read the fine print on media who have "covered" this story:

"The poll, which has a 3 percent margin of error, was conducted by telephone with live interviewers from Sunday through Tuesday among a random national sample of 1,008 U.S. registered voters."

That's a very small sample size, plus we don't have any demographic breakdowns or any real information on how these interviewers conducted their questions. Which is why you end up with results that say "man, in comparison to the AHCA we really love the ACA that we said we hated before" even though that makes no sense whatsoever. A lot of people who dislike the AHCA disliked the ACA as well.

I think I'd like it at this point if Paul Ryan would hop on a big-ass hot air balloon and fly away, never to return. :D

Chula Vista 03-24-2017 09:07 AM

Ant plays the following cards:

1. I know someone who was in the FBI therefore what I post has more merit.

2. I use to conduct polls therefore what I post has more merit.

3. My assumptions have more merit than your assumptions.

No-one said that anyone loves the ACA. Nice try though. What the poll states is that the the majority of those asked, who identified themselves as republicans, said they think the ACHA is departing too radically from the ACA.

Did you read the updated CBO report that was issued yesterday? Trumpcare is even worse that what they first reported now that they have studied the changes being made to try and get it to pass the house.

(is this where I'm supposed to post a smilie to show that I'm just having fun with all of this?)

Chula Vista 03-24-2017 09:26 AM

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