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Elph, no, I say that because most people don't fully align with one side or the other and the only reason you pick a side is because you are too lazy and dumb to think for yourself. |
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Here is a bit of wishful thinking, the only thing is that I only see two possible sources to this so I'm pretty sure it's not accurate. I didn't check her twitter to see if she really said those things either.
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This Devin Nunes story today is taking the absurd to completely new levels.
Nunes, top republican on the House Intelligence committee, who along with democrat Adam Schiff, are heading up the investigations into the possible Russia links to the Trump campaign and White House. Without informing Schiff or the rest of the comittee he talks to the press this morning to say that some Trump communications may have been intercepted as part of standard US intelligence surveilence operations this past fall. He then rushes to the White House to brief Trump. This is so wrong and messed up on so many levels. 1. Nunes offered up zero proof. 2. He's co-heading up an investigation yet divulges possibly classified information to not only the press, but also one of the people being investigated - Trump. 3. He didn't consult with the committee or Schiff, who found out about it through CNN. Schiff was visibly pissed when interviewed afterwards. 4. When asked later Trump said he felt somewhat vindicated - even though Nunes reiterated that there's zero proof of Trumps wire tap claims. He did go on to repeat Trumps walk back that wiretap was a generalization. 5. Tomorrow is the House vote on Trumpcare.it. The legal analysists are almost speechless when asked about |
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Remember that part where, like, his sister tries to seduce him and he wasn't really opposing it? That'll be Trump's daughter.
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Well that didn't take long for Nunes to have to eat some crow.
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Actually that's just a ****ty political joke that only biased people from the opposite party ever laugh at.
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I thought the SNL skits about Trump were hilarious though, and that's about as mocking toward him as it gets. You guys need more flexibility.
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You outlined alt-right talking points with unflattering pictures. That's literally what they think happened. I don't get how that's a joke.
The difference between that and the SNL Trump send ups (which are frankly hit or miss with me) are they exaggerate character flaws and mock his fragile ego. They hardly touch on actual policy because the circus is where the humor is. An equivalent joke with Obama would be if he's so zen he ignores the fire burning his house down or something or speaking more "black" to an all black audience and giving a "white" version of the speech to a white crowd. inb4 no sense of humor |
It is a pretty lame joke considering Obama's legacy is doing just fine. The more buyers remorse sets in the better Obama looks in hindsight.
Did ya see the recent Fox News poll on Trumpcare? The majority of Republicans are against it. 27% because it doesn't change Obamacare enough. 66% because it changes Obamacare too much. Read that last sentence again. 2 out of 3 Republicans hating Trumpcare because it messes with Obamacare too much. :D:D:D:D |
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The joke becomes funnier the more information you actually have. And the reactions I'm seeing so far are just icing on the cake. :D |
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You got proof on that claim about the FBI and Trump Tower? Or you just throwing it out their to deflect from your terrible Obama joke? |
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The FBI Did Wiretap Trump Tower, But Not to Monitor Trump You should know by now that I love to deal in facts, even if you disagree with my viewpoints on whatever is being discussed. CNN and Fox are both equally "lame". |
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Again, you can't have it both ways. If you, Chula, etc. are going to stick to the view that there's a possibility that Trump ever corroborated with Russia despite a lack of any hard evidence, then you need to acknowledge possibilities in regards to some of these other allegations too, especially considering what we know about the FBI and NSA's capabilities. They aren't paradigms of morality any more than Trump is: they're just a million times better at controlling their audit trail. The insinuation game works both ways, and the truth is always somewhere in the middle. Either way, the whole thing is a clusterfuck that makes both Trump and our intelligence agencies look worse than they did before. |
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And that relates to exactly what in regards to Trump? Again, nice try at a deflect. And that poll is not a Fox News "story". It's just published poll results. Similar results have been posted by numerous sorces. Bottom line: Trumpcare is going to be a major black eye for the Donald. https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...care/21904839/ EDIT: The courts gave the FBI approval to tap ONLY the phones of those tenants. You're beginning to sound like Sean Spicer. |
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I've seen all the polls. You specifically cited a "Fox News poll". Don't be obtuse. |
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I cited Fox for your benefit. If I'd cited anyone else you would have immediately dismissed it. Who's the one being obtuse here. Your republican Trump boner is once again robbing your brain of blood. And don't bother with the same ole, same ole, "I'm not a republican and I don't even like Trump BS." Your posts speak louder than your denial of the tone of your posts. |
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2. I think most polls are garbage regardless of who conducts them (having done that work myself long ago in college), so if you did it for my "benefit" then you messed up. At best, they provide a fractured picture from groups that are hardly representative of anything. People are having kneejerk reactions to the AHCA (and it does need a lot of work), but nobody really wants the ACA either as it is. 3. You should try demonstrating critical thinking in regards to our government regardless of who is or who is not in power. What I'm talking about is way more serious than Trump, a guy who won partly because of timing and will very likely lose his next bid for re-election once the incompetent Democrats get their shit together. He's a symptom of a greater set of problems, and this stuff with the FBI, the NSA, etc. should illustrate that better than anything else. |
Did you read the poll though?
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"The poll, which has a 3 percent margin of error, was conducted by telephone with live interviewers from Sunday through Tuesday among a random national sample of 1,008 U.S. registered voters." That's a very small sample size, plus we don't have any demographic breakdowns or any real information on how these interviewers conducted their questions. Which is why you end up with results that say "man, in comparison to the AHCA we really love the ACA that we said we hated before" even though that makes no sense whatsoever. A lot of people who dislike the AHCA disliked the ACA as well. I think I'd like it at this point if Paul Ryan would hop on a big-ass hot air balloon and fly away, never to return. :D |
Ant plays the following cards:
1. I know someone who was in the FBI therefore what I post has more merit. 2. I use to conduct polls therefore what I post has more merit. 3. My assumptions have more merit than your assumptions. No-one said that anyone loves the ACA. Nice try though. What the poll states is that the the majority of those asked, who identified themselves as republicans, said they think the ACHA is departing too radically from the ACA. Did you read the updated CBO report that was issued yesterday? Trumpcare is even worse that what they first reported now that they have studied the changes being made to try and get it to pass the house. (is this where I'm supposed to post a smilie to show that I'm just having fun with all of this?) |
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