Nope. That's not how impeachment works.

Not unless he's under oath.

Lame. Well alright.

I wanted to comment on this silly remark earlier because it's coming from you, the guy who claims that music made in a studio is better than anything else. Studio recording is considered labeling something.

Nice one Neap.

The only reason to take the lazy position is cause you don't give a ****. **** the retard proletariat, **** the insufferable bourgeoisie, I'm gonna go play videogames or watch cat videos on Youtube.

His popularity is low as hell but 37% are still behind the guy. A good chunk of them fervently so.

Thank you. I'm proud of myself for that one even if you use such a name to insult me with.

Yeah, he's not getting impeached anytime soon. If just telling lies was the only parameter that mattered, Obama would have been impeached within his first two years.

That was another factor I was curious about. How low does someone's popularity need to be before he himself is no longer allowed to call the shots?

Well, it seems radical when the democrats are too lazy to come up with anything to fight back.

While it's not good for sure, low approval rating means nothing as far as impeachment goes. It could only hurt his go at incumbency really.

Ah, yeah. That's true I guess. It just seems like with such a low approval rating, people would stop listening and attempt to stop listening to government altogether. Though to be fair, you shouldn't listened to the government anyway.

Bernie?

Well it could also hurt the desire for those in his party to go out of their way to ally with him if they don't see as much benefit were he more popular.

Bernie was more active during his campaign than Hillary and Trump combined, so that's nonsense. However the dems felt it was their responsibility to put someone in that wasn't popular.

Huh?

True, but it was close and some of us at least tried to not run an embarrassment candidate.

My only point is that it may only be an illusion that the Republican party is radical, where in relation to the Democratic party, the Republican party is just doing its job. A few exceptions of course.

I was going to edit and say I mistook what you typed but I knew you'd respond quick. I got what you were saying now.

I won't say anything in regards to the other candidates since Stein and Johnson were both a joke, Stein more than Johnson obviously.

It boggles my mind that Congress is allowed to decide how voting districts are laid out. It's like giving a serial rapist free room and board and a skeleton key at a sorority house.

I've seen others floating the idea around as well but from the angle that he accused a former president of a felony. As others have said though as long as he didn't lie under oath it's all in play and he's fine.

That's the plot of a sitcom screenplay I'm currently working on.

Working title: Animolester House

Can you imagine what it must be like to be a member of the republican congress right now who's up for re-election in two years? You have Trump, Ryan, and Bannon beating you over the head to jump on board Trumpcare, yet you have a constituency that for the most part already hate it.

I was going to ask if you had seen any polls showing right wing dissent of the bill before I researched and found this

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...news-poll-315/

Yes it's fox but looking at this it's a well done poll.

Wow.

Trumpcare
17% - strongly favor
40% - strongly oppose

Why do you oppose Trumpcare
21% - doesn't change Obamacare enough
67% - changes Obamacare too much

That last one is a doozy.

Pretty much. The Republicans have been able to define the national conversation to an extent that their positions are at least acceptable for debate, whereas the more liberal views of the Democrats are politically embarrassing. All things being equal both sides would probably be equally far right/left, but the political reality has hamstrung the Democrats.

To the extent that for a ton of rural, older, mostly white Americans, the priorities (when push comes to shove) are God, Guns, and Anti-Gubment, it's pretty easy to see why things are the way they are right now.

"It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve", is still a popular meme in a lot of those areas.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7LqJ1sVAAAVm67.jpg

lol if this is real.

According to this guy's argument, Trump's conduct to date already justifies impeachment:-



My understanding is that there has to be much broader support for it, with politicians and public alike calling for impeachment, before any action is taken.

Alas, impeaching Trump wouldn't necessarily achieve much. I think the Republicans are treating Trump like a sacrificial pawn; put him out there, if he does some good for the cause, that's great. The day he is too toxic to be useful they'll throw him under the bus, because of course in this scenario the Republicans are playing chess, sitting on the sidewalk of a bus route.... Anyway, they'll just dust off their hands and try to push through many of the same policies with a less controvertial figurehead.

Yes, ditto on both of those. An impeachment on shakey grounds would be really hurtful to the image of US democracy. An impeachment attempt that failed to impeach would be even worse.

I was surprised to learn about the whole Electoral College weighting of votes in the US, which seems very unfair to the big citydwellers on both coasts.
If it's any consolation, the UK also has a complex voting system which also skews the idea of one man, one vote. Politicians (the electoral losers, of course) regularly call for Proportional Representation, but it hasn't happened yet because every party that wins under the existing system defends the existing system, regardless of what they may have said when they were the opposition party.

Our system exists because the rural South wouldn't have ratified the Constitution if they hadn't have had a voting counterweight against the more populous North. ****ty, especially since cities have an even greater share of the population today, but just a political necessity at the time.

I'd vote for a more honest version of Barack Obama or Trump when he was in his mid 30's (when his thinking was more flexible and he leaned more left than right).

His bitch ass is going to jail for treason and libel.

Well that's what happened with Bill Clinton. They just didn't have enough votes to impeach him successfully. It was pretty close though.

That's interesting!
I used to think the Confederate flag was just a quaint bit of nostalgia, like humming along to The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down or watching The Good The Bad and The Ugly. Turns out those southern sentiments are nearer the surface than I thought.

EDIT: OK, thanks DJ, so there's a precedent for a call for impeachment that doesn't go all the way...

So .....a constitutional republic don't work for you?

Not really, no.

Rubio in 2016:

RUBIO: ...and obviously we all understand the importance of this presidential race.
I would just ask everybody this:
Can this country afford to have a president under investigation by the FBI?

AUDIENCE: No!

RUBIO: Think of the trauma that this would do to this country. <sic>