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Goofle 01-12-2017 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1794457)
Who do you think has the raw deal here?

The guy getting 40% of his earnings taken away from him.

duga 01-12-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1794474)
The guy getting 40% of his earnings taken away from him.

I think you don't understand how the tax system works - you pay a flat fee and then pay 40% on any earnings over the lower bound of the bracket.

Clearly you have not been out in the world long enough to appreciate the difference between living on 30k vs. 1.5 mil. The person leaving with 1.5 mil will have no problem paying their bills. They would have no problem if they only left the table with 1mil. The $5000 taken from the lower earner may result in them not paying rent and being evicted from their apartment. Hoarding wealth is reprehensible. The whole reason the 1% are not taxed more is because of the foolish idea that they will stimulate the economy and the wealth will trickle down. We've tried that for 30 years and it's clear that philosophy has failed. The solution is to make their contribution to the economy a lawful requirement.

elphenor 01-12-2017 01:15 PM

surprisingly low if you don't know anything maybe

400k/yr is a ****ton of money already and probably more than one person should ever have

elphenor 01-12-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1794394)
I thought it would be over 1mil, therefore it was lower than I expected. Regardless, doesn't justify taking about 40% of their income. I don't think anything could justify that.

this is where you go wrong

their income is the amount they have after we democratically decide what belongs to all of us

Goofle 01-12-2017 01:20 PM

Hoarding wealth is reprehensible, but taking money from somebody's earnings by force isn't? Explain that to me please.

And I'll concede that I don't understand the exact tax process.

duga 01-12-2017 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1794518)
Hoarding wealth is reprehensible, but taking money from somebody's earnings by force isn't? Explain that to me please.

And I'll concede that I don't understand the exact tax process.

By force? This thinking is the exact reason we are in this mess.

You want the benefits and privileges of living free in an open market? You pay your dues. You make 100x more than the average American? You pay 100x more taxes. End of story.

Goofle 01-12-2017 01:24 PM

You can't just say words. Explain to me why it's perfectly reasonable to take a higher percentage of money off wealthy people?

elphenor 01-12-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1794518)
Hoarding wealth is reprehensible, but taking money from somebody's earnings by force isn't? Explain that to me please.

They can only earn anything because of all the services the gov provides to make an economy work in the first place

It's taking what's owed back to the people who made it possible for said high earner to live the lifestyle he/she does

elphenor 01-12-2017 01:28 PM

tell you what the rich can opt out of taxes and the police force can opt out of protecting them and then we can just take what belongs to us from their mansions

Goofle 01-12-2017 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1794532)
tell you what the rich can opt out of taxes and the police force can opt out of protecting them and then we can just take what belongs to us from their mansions

:laughing:


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