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Old 04-21-2017, 08:22 AM   #201 (permalink)
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If you're asking, 'should we import 100 million Muslims from say, Indonesian, and have them pick our government?', well no.
OK

So you've eliminated Indonesia. I agree. Good start.

Let's start with the A's...

Afghanistan? Algeria?
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:23 AM   #202 (permalink)
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I can get down with some Afghani drug lords.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:23 AM   #203 (permalink)
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I don't understand why this guy thinks that because we wouldn't want to live in the political culture of Pakistan this is some great slam dunk on Islam
You don't have one example.
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Old 04-21-2017, 08:31 AM   #204 (permalink)
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OK

So you've eliminated Indonesia. I agree. Good start.

Let's start with the A's...

Afghanistan? Algeria?
Yep, like talking to a brick wall. I've given you the heuristic. Your inability to apply it isn't my problem.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:05 AM   #205 (permalink)
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Speaking for myself I don't come at this from the view that Islam is at fault on it's own, but it happens to play a part and the specific set of people who are causing these specific issues happen to be Muslims, and therefore follow Islam to some extent. And it doesn't matter if you think they are "doing Islam wrong".

Obviously we have to take into account other factors, but since the discussion is based around events in Europe I think it's a little more important to focus on the cultural and religious values these people may have - as opposed to Western imperialism - since they are actually in the West and fully able to take advantage of our available freedoms. The reason for any issue that may come about within the Islamic population in Europe probably has more to do with religion and culture than the impending threat of a drone strike.
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And it doesn't matter if you think they are "doing Islam wrong".
While I agree that a lot of people kneejerkedly spit out that something isn't Islam when it potentially depicts the religion negatively, I think it really does matter if it's justified. Look to the various Muslim communities' denouncement of ISIS for examples of this.

I don't think you'd be making the same argument if someone equated conservatives with white nationalists.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:24 AM   #207 (permalink)
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I read that through and was gonna edit it but I think your comment works well enough.

I'm not sure how the denouncement of ISIS applies to this specific point though, since ISIS are clearly Muslims and follow the religion to some extent.
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Most attacks end up being traced back to ties to the ME though no?
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if islam isn't violent then why do they have SLAM in the name of their religion?

huh?

yeah, thought so mate.
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if islam isn't violent then why do they have SLAM in the name of their religion?

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