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Old 06-05-2017, 03:37 PM   #741 (permalink)
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Dubai is the new Hong Kong, sure. But I need something like the Walkman or Spotify. Tall buildings? Come on, man.
You also want to ask why Christian countries in N Africa are not inventing The Internet but instead practicing 80% female genital mutilation
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Old 06-05-2017, 03:59 PM   #742 (permalink)
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Besides South Sudan what Christian country in North Africa are you talking about?
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Old 06-05-2017, 04:03 PM   #743 (permalink)
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For one Algebra upon which all these tech advances (that we use to exploit and murder) comes from Arabs

But more importantly it's not "Muslims"

It's specific theocratic nations, Indonesia has nothing in common with Saudi Arabia (which the US backs)
Said in the last 100 years. Do you really just see what you want to in posts? Case in point...
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It wasn't a direct response to his arbitrary 100 years

Why would you read it that way
Uh, because it was the question? I am fully aware that Iraq is the cradle of civilisation, and that Islam was more advanced than us originally, but I'm asking what have the Islamic or Muslim countries contributed to the advancement of society recently?
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Old 06-05-2017, 04:05 PM   #744 (permalink)
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Old 06-05-2017, 04:10 PM   #745 (permalink)
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Iraq isn't the cradle of civilization.

First Human Ancestor Came from Europe Not Africa, 7.2 Million-year-old Fossils Indicate
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Also the article is about the origin of humans not the origin of civilization.
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Also the article is about the origin of humans not the origin of civilization.
Wherever humans were earliest is going to be considered the origin point of civilization. The idea of the Fertile Crescent and those civilizations being the bedrock only works if you can prove humans were establishing themselves there first and not in some other part of the world.
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Wherever humans were earliest is going to be considered the origin point of civilization. The idea of the Fertile Crescent and those civilizations being the bedrock only works if you can prove humans were establishing themselves there first and not in some other part of the world.
No, the word civilization is used to describe complex urban societies. That's why the cities of the Fertile Crescent are considered the cradle of civilization rather than the birthplace of humanity.
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Uh, because it was the question? I am fully aware that Iraq is the cradle of civilisation, and that Islam was more advanced than us originally, but I'm asking what have the Islamic or Muslim countries contributed to the advancement of society recently?
I find "advancement of society" a little vague. What advancements do you necessarily mean and what does that exactly prove?
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No, the word civilization is used to describe complex urban societies. That's why the cities of the Fertile Crescent are considered the cradle of civilization rather than the birthplace of humanity.
This historian https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bulliet

figures there were other civilizations that predate the Fertile Crescent but we have yet to find evidence of their existence and may not

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