Islam in Europe

The Batlord · 07-01-2017, 11:00 AM

Nah, Islamophobia comes in when you call every heinous crime committed by a Muslim terrorism. Your logic is backwards.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 07-01-2017, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Yep.

It's not terror related.

Oxford English Dictionary:

terrorism
ˈtɛrərɪzəm/Submit
noun
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

This guy was just pissed off he got sacked and wanted revenge. It's not terrorism.

Scores back at 6-6.

djchameleon · 07-01-2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If he's blasting people in a hospital with an assault rifle yes I consider that terrorism. It's just as scary with or without a turban.

No. The difference between what he did a homegrown terrorist is idealogy. It is like you want to link all school shootings and homicides to terrorism. Nope that is not how it works.

No political statement was being made. He was accused of sexual harassment got fired and vowed revenge. Not a terrorist act.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 07-01-2017, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

BBC saying he got sacked and said he'd come back and kill them all.

Not terrorism.

I have changed the scores back to 6-6 (disallowed goal).

you'll have to assume he'd be disappointed in himself at blowing such an easy opportunity on a grand stage like this.

The Batlord · 07-01-2017, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

you'll have to assume he'd be disappointed in himself at blowing such an easy opportunity on a grand stage like this.

If you're gonna walk into some place and start shooting then you might as well go full retard/Columbine and whip out the pipe bombs.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 07-01-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

If you're gonna walk into some place and start shooting then you might as well go full retard/Columbine and whip out the pipe bombs.

well charles, unfortunately some of the younger players just can't seem to hold it all together once they get the call. seems like our guy was just another casualty of rushing his opportunity.

OccultHawk · 07-01-2017, 01:26 PM

Was Columbine terrorism by the dip **** definitions we got going on here?

I never considered it could not be. They walked around a school shooting people. This guy a hospital. What about the dude in the tower in Texas I think. Virginia Tech dude. Motive smotive. The personal is political. Hospital dude was clearly making a point.

The Batlord · 07-01-2017, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Was Columbine terrorism by the dip **** definitions we got going on here?

I never considered it could not be. They walked around a school shooting people. This guy a hospital. What about the dude in the tower in Texas I think. Virginia Tech dude. Motive smotive. The personal is political. Hospital dude was clearly making a point.

The definition of terrorism is more inclusive than I'd like. To me terrorism is a more a political movement than a specific act.

The Batlord · 07-01-2017, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I'd be with you in some cases

like bombing an abortion clinic, shooting up Republicans at a baseball game etc.

but random acts of psycho violence are not necessarily terrorism by definition, well Im sure you'd find a dictionary exception, but used in most contexts it means something more specific

Like I said, I'd go farther and define terrorism as a form of violent, political movements. Al Qaeda, the IRA, whatever groups bomb abortion clinics (assuming they have any legitimate organization). Calling Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber terrorists is technically correct, but does it make any sense to equate those individuals with those groups? They're different animals. What purpose does it serve besides diluting the idea of what terrorist organizations do to soften the blow of calling Islamic terrorist movements terrorists?

OccultHawk · 07-01-2017, 02:35 PM

Actually reading several definitions makes me realize my own definition of terrorism is not in synch with the commonly accepted (and therefore for practical purposes "correct") definitions. I considered many acts of terrorism political but thought of the terror itself as the core component of terrorism. I have to admit that I had a misconception of what terrorism is.

For my world terrorism challenge I don't care, however.

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07-01-2017, 02:35 PM	#960 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	Actually reading several definitions makes me realize my own definition of terrorism is not in synch with the commonly accepted (and therefore for practical purposes "correct") definitions. I considered many acts of terrorism political but thought of the terror itself as the core component of terrorism. I have to admit that I had a misconception of what terrorism is. For my world terrorism challenge I don't care, however. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html