The Environmental Watchdog MasterThread

~~MicShazam~~ · 09-10-2017, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

What the **** are you, my long-lost Danish brother??

If you surname also starts with J, things would certainly start pointing in that direction... PM me if that's the case because we might need see if the rest of the letters match too

More likely, we're just somewhat similarly put together mentally speaking. We're both fans of wussy/dull music types that no one else in here likes, both pretty anal retentive and both pretty keen to avoid conflicts. I might curse a fair bit more than you do, though

~~MicShazam~~ · 09-10-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

P.S. Yeah, sure - go plant a pine cone, MicShazam, why not? One tree at a time, it all helps. John Lennon and Yoko Ono once sent a pine cone or something like that to all of the world leaders of the time. Didn't do a lot of good, but somehow made some people feel better - and some enlightened leaders even planted them I believe.

Maybe I will. I actually have a pine cone laying on a shelf next to a couple figurines and rocks. No idea if it's still "fresh" so to speak.

The Batlord · 09-10-2017, 02:35 PM

Should you even plant pine cones? I mean they fall on the ground and presumably aren't buried.

~~MicShazam~~ · 09-10-2017, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Should you even plant pine cones? I mean they fall on the ground and presumably aren't buried.

I always assumed it was as with many berries and such. Some animal eats the seeds, then takes a dump, then a tree grows.

DwnWthVwls · 09-10-2017, 03:41 PM

How Do Coniferous Plants Reproduce? | Sciencing

Good luck.

~~MicShazam~~ · 09-10-2017, 03:56 PM

Male and female cones?! Hell no, this is one needlessly complicated plant.

As far as I can gather from a sub-link specifically about normal pine trees, I have a female cone on my shelf. Male cones only appear during spring. If the cone I have is already knocked up, so to speak, then it might work, but who knows. Basically, too much damn trouble

I'll just have leave that pine tree business to nature.

DwnWthVwls · 09-10-2017, 06:19 PM

Chances are if it's open it has already dispersed its seeds.. you can break it apart and look for some, but I doubt they'll still be fertile if you've had it a while. I'm not too familiar with the whole process. When we planted Shortleaf Pine at school after our controlled burns they were already saplings. I've only grown oaks from acorns :X

Lisnaholic · 09-11-2017, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I always assumed it was as with many berries and such. Some animal eats the seeds, then takes a dump, then a tree grows.

^ At this point in the discussion I was about to suggest you do something with your pine cone that would've been at first painfull and then embarrassing.

Luckily DWV has steered us in a more sensible direction - and in fact, acorns are what John and Yoko sent out to world leaders. AFAIK Canada and Israel appreciated the gesture for what it was and planted their acorns. Other countries not so much.

Lisnaholic · 09-11-2017, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy

The sale of non-energy-saving light bulbs was actually banned in Germany a few years ago.

^ In many respects, European countries are so, er, enlightened.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

i) plant a tree (or some climbing greenery over your house)

Did this too. About six I think. I have to water them every day and feed them once a week (usually there are hobos in the area so we don't go short of a food sup - ah, forget I said that). Can't really plant trees due to Karen's extension leaving us very little garden, and we're on a council estate so no front garden. Also I think you need permission from the Corpo to do anything like that.

ii) switch to energy saving lightbulbs ( and turn off lights, etc that you don't need)

Same here. Hate lights being on if nobody is in the room.

iii) turn off the bathroom tap while you are brushing your teeth.

Always did, and I have the same problem as you, though the Corpo are due to give us a new washbasin so that will hopefully sort that.

iv) sell your car ( or at least car pool, switch to a hybrid, and stop joy riding)

Ditto

v) become a vegetarian (or at least cut down on beef, switching to poultry or fish instead)

Can't say I do this, but I only occasionally eat burgers; it's more chicken and usually in pies, then pizza, the odd stew (mince or coddle). But I hate veggies. I'm allergic to them. No, I am, really. I have a note from my doctor ... somewhere.

Thanks for responding to the list of recommendations, guys. I thought the least I could do is check my own performance against it, which goes like this:-

i) I've planted three trees; one with my son in a public park as part of a Boy Scout Project, one that was blown down in a hurricane, and one that the owner after me decided to cut down.
ii) + iii) Pretty well-behaved about lights and water
iv) have a small car, but when feasable use a bike instead.
v) never liked big chunks of red meat, and now, after sixty years of consumption, I've given up sausages and ham too, on account of how gross their production is. I'm even considering bumping some of Vegangelica's threads...

PS. No idea what "coddle" is, Trollheart, so I'll take your word for it, that it is an " odd stew".

Trollheart · 09-11-2017, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

^ In many respects, European countries are so, er, enlightened.

Thanks for responding to the list of recommendations, guys. I thought the least I could do is check my own performance against it, which goes like this:-

i) I've planted three trees; one with my son in a public park as part of a Boy Scout Project, one that was blown down in a hurricane, and one that the owner after me decided to cut down.
ii) + iii) Pretty well-behaved about lights and water
iv) have a small car, but when feasable use a bike instead.
v) never liked big chunks of red meat, and now, after sixty years of consumption, I've given up sausages and ham too, on account of how gross their production is. I'm even considering bumping some of Vegangelica's threads...

PS. No idea what "coddle" is, Trollheart, so I'll take your word for it, that it is an " odd stew".

Yeah it's basically a sausage stew. Sausages, potatoes, carrots, oxtail soup. Rashers too if you want (I don't) and onions (ditto). Great for warming you up on a cold evening, and like most stews, the longer you leave it the better it tastes, so it lasts me about three or four days, which is then dinner taken care of for half the week. Just finished one yesterday. Yum!

09-10-2017, 03:56 PM	#146 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,636	Male and female cones?! Hell no, this is one needlessly complicated plant. As far as I can gather from a sub-link specifically about normal pine trees, I have a female cone on my shelf. Male cones only appear during spring. If the cone I have is already knocked up, so to speak, then it might work, but who knows. Basically, too much damn trouble I'll just have leave that pine tree business to nature.