Paul Smeenus

Okay.

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I agree. We need to set the sails with a sense of purpose.

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Trollheart

Of course you know this, but it was "No taxation without representation", as the other would make an odd rallying call. Does remind me of an episode of the superlative political satire The New Statesman, in which Tory wideboy politician Alan B'Stard (yes, that was his name!) intends to disenfranchise the poor by taking away their vote, if their income falls beneath a certain figure. "The rallying cry," he bellows, "of the American Revolution was No Taxation without Representation! I offer a new clarion call: No Representation without Taxation!"
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Frownland

Is stolen valor an appropriate topic for the thread? Military is kind of similar to politics I guess. Living in SD I have a lot of military and veteran acquaintances, so I see a lot of outrage over people who haven't served wearing military uniforms and badges. What are your thoughts on it?

Personally I see it similar to people wearing a safety vest to get into places for free. They found a social loophole, more power to them.

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DwnWthVwls

I dont see a reason for the elderly and military vets to get discounts, but since it is part of our society id say its pretty ****ty of people to do so.

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djchameleon

Your new avatar doesn't match you. I keep thing it is a mord post until I look at the user name.

Also screw you. We deserve discounts and its not lile there are even a lot of places that even offer. Unless you are in a city with a military base like Frown mentioned. Of course they should get discounts for all the business they get from the military in that area.

Kind of reminds me of that Clark ******* that is a Republican who wears all kinds of badges on his uniform that ends up making him look like a clown in a costume. It is wrong and ****ed up for people to be doing that in my opinion. Risk your life first before you go around impersonating someone in the military.

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Chula Vista

Mind blown.

Military vets get treated like absolute **** by our current economic system once they retire from the service of "WORKING TO PROTECT YOUR ASS" based on the orders they receive. Mostly young, and naive kids who have nowhere else to turn and then get completely used and manipulated by our government and then get thrown to the curb when they get home.

Do you know what percentage of homeless people are folks who once stood on battle lines trying to protect your countries' interests based on what they were instructed by the goverment, while you were sitting home sucking your thumb?

My 86 year old dad is elderly. He busted his ass working for over 50 years. He served during the Korean War in the Air Force and almost didn't make it home from one flight. He and the crew had to jettison every piece of gear and equipment to reduce the weight of the plane to maximize the fuel so they could get back to the base.

He's currently in a nursing home and I've been unable to have a coherent conversaton with him over the phone (we're 3,000 miles apart), because of his dementia, in about 3 years. The dude contributed into the system for decades. He paid his taxes. He did his part to make the system work without bitching.

Maybe re-think your attitude about how this stuff works. Totally let down by you DMV. I held you in higher regard until that post.

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Yeah, I don't get this really. Most (all?) military personnel volunteer to serve. They do put their lives on the line - whether you agree with the policy under which they go to war or not is kind of irrelevant - and whether you like it or not, they protect your freedom. I think the least they should expect is a little bit of payback from the system they fought to defend. As for older people? Well, most of them may not have the kind of money you did/do/will, and will find it hard to get by, so I see no problem in their being helped out by a society which has, by this point, pretty much passed them by and discarded them.

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Frownland

I always thought that the whole perteckin our freedom stuff was a bunch of propaganda that hasnt been applicable for over 75 years. There hasn't been a real existential threat to our freedom in a long time (despite what those who profit off of fear mongering might tell you).

Plenty of people contribute to society in infinitely more positive ways than the military. Teachers, farmers, and weed dealers should get that discount alongside the military.

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The Batlord

For all that people talk about teachers being paid more, I don't think the socially conservative wing of the country honestly gives a **** about actually paying for raises for people who teach science that contradicts their backwards ignorance.

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