My friend that has the biggest problems getting laid is actually extremely social and hates social media. He's not really that awkward either outside of his narcolepsy caused by sleep apnea where he'll just randomly fall asleep mid conversation if he's sitting down. He's just the guy that falls for any girl that shows him the slightest bit of attention and I guess that's off putting to most girls he's tried to get with.

We're taking general rules, it's not going to apply to everyone. There have always been people who can't/don't get laid. The new thing is a rising % of virgins.

This will turn virtually any girl off.

Yeah that's what I was referring to. 90s. I'm not putting that solely at the feet of TV and video games as the social upheavals of the past few decades have been crazy but I think TV and video games and now social media and the internet and iPhones are part of a perfect storm. Throw in out of whack gender roles for men, capitalism and constant TV advertising dehumanizing people into living commodities, and an ever worsening American dream and you get more and more school shootings as young men are overwhelmed by a world that no longer makes sense or cares for them (or anyone else for that matter but the girls aren't shooting up schools so that's not really the point).

I know it happened in the 90s but I think it had more to do with their resentment for how they were treated at school than TV and video games. Though I remember part of the press did blame Marilyn Manson.

I don't remember the stats but it's obviously more men than women but women are also trending in the same direction, IIRC.

The sad part is these girls are typically interested in him at first. Maybe he should just order a back page prostitute.

Then there's this one dude living at the neighboring friend's house who's ugly as ****, literally brain damaged and getting pussy every night. They say he was bringing home some pretty nasty looking girls though. Theory is that since he was working at the downtown library he was picking up homeless girls. Ahh Magna, you never cease.

Yeah like I said I'm not laying it entirely at the feet of TV and video games. I'm just saying that I think it's one part of youth society that's been growing over the decades that contributes to the growing alienation and malaise of young people that makes them feel that the world isn't real and doesn't mean anything and doesn't care about them. I mean throw in rising college costs in there too with all the other things I listed. Wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't some percentage of the problem.

They're interested until they realize he's not only attainable, but desperate.

Basically when you meet a girl it's a job interview and she's the employer. How far will fawning over how much you'd like to work there without bringing leverage to the table get you?

I hear what you're saying. But I also see a fundamental difference between that and actual socialization being mediated by technology. If anything the telephone is more of a precursor to Facebook than video games.