Political Discussions for "Adults"

Tristan_Geoff · 10-13-2019, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Imagine being dumb enough to think that reading is mentally taxing.

U ever read Walden?

**Frownland** · 10-13-2019, 07:28 PM

They'd be just as taxing in audio form, arguably more so if you account for having to adjust to someone else's reading and speaking speed.

The Batlord · 10-13-2019, 07:37 PM

Translation: you don't have the attention span to listen to audio books cause you're easily distracted by shiny things.

OccultHawk · 10-13-2019, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I like books

not audio books though

it's important that you expend the mental effort recieving the information from the page

I don’t totally disregard audio books but this is 90% correct

~~jwb~~ · 10-13-2019, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I like books

not audio books though

it's important that you expend the mental effort recieving the information from the page

no it's not

Books only exist cause people were too primitive to invent audiobooks

Humans are naturally designed to absorb info more through listening than reading, since conversation is a basic human trait

Reading is more effective if you have the time and will power to sit down and strictly devote your attention to the book

But audiobooks are more effective in that you can multitask while listening, which frees up a lot more time to listen. You might have to listen to a single chapter multiple times depending on the book but you still ultimately get the same amount of content.

You "like" books so much that you complain about how arduous a task is for you to finish discipline and punish. You like the idea of reading books. You like displaying them on your bookshelf.

The Batlord · 10-13-2019, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Humans are naturally designed to absorb info more through listening than reading, since conversation is a basic human trait

Do you talk back to your audiobooks? Do they respond to you? If not then you're not holding a conversation, you're being lectured, which is really not a great way to retain information. For someone who claims that working class hero mythology is bull**** you sure do try hard to **** on things associated with intellectualism with yourself as a working class hero alternative.

~~jwb~~ · 10-13-2019, 08:55 PM

... listening is part of a conversation. That doesn't mean you have to be having an actual conversation to absorb info via listening.

Reading only introduces an extra step since you have to convert the characters on the page to the words you understand which are already represented in your brain as sounds.

I'm not saying reading is useless but to put it on a pedestal like it's the only pure form of absorbing information is just self congratulatory elitist bull****.

And audiobooks vs reading has nothing to do with the working class.. who largely don't do either.

The Batlord · 10-13-2019, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

... listening is part of a conversation. That doesn't mean you have to be having an actual conversation to absorb info via listening.

My dick being pleasured is part of sex. I'm a ****ing sex machine who's gotten laid twice today (and not ten minutes ago I might add).

Without the engagement of a mutual conversation the mind wanders as you are talked at without having any immediate social reason to retain information you might currently have to respond to.

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Reading only introduces an extra step since you have to convert the characters on the page to the words you understand which are already represented in your brain as sounds.

Depending on your mood, level of energy, general preference, or whatever it could be easier to retain information either way, but the aesthetics of reading are simply different to listening to an audiobook in more ways than the mechanical absorption of information. That's why book are ****ing art. Even non-fiction books are bound by the same nebulous aesthetic "rules" of reading.

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I'm not saying reading is useless but to put it on a pedestal like it's the only pure form of absorbing information is just self congratulatory elitist bull****.

Yeah of course but you eat **** too.

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And audiobooks vs reading has nothing to do with the working class.. who largely don't do either.

Elitism is just naturally associated with greater wealth and privilege. Practicality is naturally associated with being more salt-of-the-earth. Don't be a ****ing moron and pretend you don't understand this.

OccultHawk · 10-13-2019, 09:18 PM

I can’t tell you how you learn but actually reading **** sinks the info way deeper into my thick skull

and like elph I just think audiobooks are kind of weaksauce

but I don’t have a long commute or any ****

It doesn’t really matter I guess but for me I like to read and it’s way faster to read

The Batlord · 10-13-2019, 09:21 PM

And honestly there's something isolating about audiobooks. You're a spectator in your own mind's eye while the speaker is somewhere "over there", and so it tends to be less immersive and transformative than really absorbing yourself into a book to the point that you're only tangentially aware that you're even reading letters at all.

10-13-2019, 07:28 PM	#3852 (permalink)
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OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	I can’t tell you how you learn but actually reading ** sinks the info way deeper into my thick skull and like elph I just think audiobooks are kind of weaksauce but I don’t have a long commute or any ** It doesn’t really matter I guess but for me I like to read and it’s way faster to read __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

10-13-2019, 08:55 PM	#3857 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	... listening is part of a conversation. That doesn't mean you have to be having an actual conversation to absorb info via listening. Reading only introduces an extra step since you have to convert the characters on the page to the words you understand which are already represented in your brain as sounds. I'm not saying reading is useless but to put it on a pedestal like it's the only pure form of absorbing information is just self congratulatory elitist bull****. And audiobooks vs reading has nothing to do with the working class.. who largely don't do either.