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debaserr 12-05-2019 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2093450)
the only argument is to focus on late term abortion and where we draw the line cuz it is fuzzy and arbitrary tbh

The only coherent argument at least.

DwnWthVwls 12-05-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2093633)
I shouldnt have complained :banghead:

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WWWP 12-05-2019 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2093450)
the only argument is to focus on late term abortion and where we draw the line cuz it is fuzzy and arbitrary tbh

The line as it stands seems to be concerned with viability of the fetus. I had an english professor once who argued that infanticide up to age 5 should be considered late-term abortion and not murder.

Also mindful something that is interesting to me about the topic is the differing language used by both sides. "Fetus" vs "baby" for example. Could at least get one paragraph out of that.

DwnWthVwls 12-05-2019 06:35 PM

Wtf was his argument. It's not even an infant/infanticide after one year.

Mindy 12-05-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2093670)
The line as it stands seems to be concerned with viability of the fetus. I had an english professor once who argued that infanticide up to age 5 should be considered late-term abortion and not murder.

Also mindful something that is interesting to me about the topic is the differing language used by both sides. "Fetus" vs "baby" for example. Could at least get one paragraph out of that.

thanks, ill google that https://boxden.com/smilies/5QR9Q1Z.png

The Batlord 12-05-2019 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2093673)
Wtf was his argument. It's not even an infant/infanticide after one year.

Probably still way dumber than a dog though and we euthanize them all the time. Castrate em too.

WWWP 12-05-2019 07:20 PM

Her.* And yeah pretty much what elph said. And sure, technically it's filicide but that's not the point. Anyway infanticide is still practiced in cultures worldwide we're just still so obsessed with the whole sanctity of life concept that it's too icky to think about. There's a solution for every problem.

debaserr 12-05-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2093690)
Anyway infanticide is still practiced in cultures worldwide we're just still so obsessed with the whole sanctity of life concept that it's too icky to think about.

Some places kill babies that have defects or something?

WWWP 12-05-2019 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by debaserr (Post 2093707)
Some places kill babies that have defects or something?

yeah or vaginas

DwnWthVwls 12-06-2019 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2093682)
argument is based around children not really being able to survive independent of their mother thus questioning the legitimacy of the line we draw for the fetus

can we not make the same argument for justifying infanticide basically

Ive only ever heard that argument used for when a fetus requires to live off thr body of the mother not post birth. Pretty stupid argument we all survive indirectly off one another


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