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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2090904)

You do realize that Burisma is going to have NOTHING to do with the impeachment vote, right?

BENGHAZI redux.

*laughter.gif*

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2090905)

Then when that testimony is introduced into the discussion, all of Congress will stand up and say "well shit, Biden's actually the guilty one! Anything that we've been trying to hold Trump accountable for is now absolved based on the precedent of the Butwudabout Rule."

Maybe you're right after all.

Going by that logic, every time we cite a court case as reference for something ongoing in the present that's whataboutism.

I dunno what the problem is. If we're going to throw Trump under the bus for Ukraine, I'm just asking if we can throw Biden under there too.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2090931)

cuz it's an obvious dodge when nobody was talking about Biden

Lol what are you talking about.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2090929)

I dunno what the problem is. If we're going to throw Trump under the bus for Ukraine, I'm just asking if we can throw Biden under there too.

Why did you use it as a counterpoint to Chula's claims of the inevitability of Trump's defeat, then?

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2090929)

If we're going to throw Trump under the bus for Ukraine, I'm just asking if we can throw Biden under there too.

So much accusation - so little proof.
Show me proof of any wrongdoing or STFU.
Trump and Jules have been digging hard for a year and have nothing but a debunked conspiracy theory.
Also, last I read/heard, Biden is not on trial.
Nice deflection though.

Just heard an Arizona woman (who's a registered republican) sum things up very succinctly:

"I've been paying real close attention and I haven't heard a single thing so far that makes me think Trump is innocent."

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2090944)

Why did you use it as a counterpoint to Chula's claims of the inevitability of Trump's defeat, then?

Because it seems very very unlikely that he's gong to be defeated by an impeachment process that is inevitably going to deflate once the Senate are up to bat. I'd bet on those tax returns coming to light before I'd bet on the Senate.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2090951)

Biden is going to lose the nomination because of this impeachment debacle. That case with Burisma is not settled no matter what the Washington Post proclaims, and it is relevant to most Americans if the children of top Democrat leaders are financially getting propped up by their parents' connections on the backs of China, Ukraine, wherever. And if Trump doesn't go down because of this, then you've just paved the way for an Elizabeth Warren or Sanders loss in 2020 to him. Is that what you want?

This here is going to come up FYI - https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunte...ns-memos-show/

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2090951)

So much accusation - so little proof.
Show me proof of any wrongdoing or STFU.
Democrats have been digging hard for a year and have nothing but a debunked conspiracy theory.

If you hate Trump so much, you should probably stop quoting him.

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2090952)

What does that have to do with "butwudabowt Biden"?

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2090952)

an impeachment process that is inevitably going to deflate once the Senate are up to bat

You do realize that before the Senate gets handed a bat Trump will need to be IMPEACHED first.

Only the most hard core of his base is going to vote for an impeached and disgraced president.

No matter how awesome the president of Ukraine thinks his ass is.

Be careful, underestimating just how stupid Americans are got Trump elected in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2090954)

What does that have to do with "butwudabowt Biden"?

Doesn't he have pretty much everything to do with it? We wouldn't be seeing an impeachment hearing right now if Biden wasn't running in 2020. The whistleblower only felt concerned enough to report it because Biden is perceived as Trump's primary political rival in 2020, no?