Political Discussions for "Adults"

Neapolitan · 04-20-2020, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Incredibly, this is one of the moments that sealed it for Reagan. Even today, people still think Reagan “won” because he said “there you go again”

America always as been and always will be a nation of idiots

If you listen to Carter he was saying how Reagan opposes this and that. Reagan said he didn't so much opposed as he preferred another bill. It's all political rhetoric, and nothing to hang you hat on. "There you go again" is more like saying to Carter you are not going to define me or my position. It's like calling his bluff -- his political rhetoric bluff. That's why Reagan looked like a stronger candidate to the viewing television audience back then.

OccultHawk · 04-20-2020, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

To clarify here, I don't think this is the largest reason he won. Carter's time in office included the Iranian Revolution, gas shortages, and really the end of the New Deal limitations. It also represented an aberration of sorts. Nixon was the national favorite, disrupted by impeachment, and Regan reflected a violent snap back.

Also, it's fair to say that in 1979, we could have done with some deregulation. Untested, it wasn't absurd people voted for him.

The people who voted for him wanted a huge nuclear arsenal. Supported amping up the Cold War and objected to implementing an energy policy that would have revolutionized the world and would’ve given us a chance to fight climate change.

Reagan amplified everything that was bad about America ten fold.

And ftr I’m glad he suffered for years and died like a little bitch wearing a diaper.

OccultHawk · 04-20-2020, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

If you listen to Carter he was saying how Reagan opposes this and that. Reagan said he didn't so much opposed as he preferred another bill. It's all political rhetoric, and nothing to hang you hat on. "There you go again" is more like saying to Carter you are not going to define me or my position. It's like calling his bluff -- his political rhetoric bluff. That why Reagan looked like a stronger candidate.

He looked stronger to idiots because he had a stupid ****ing smirk and that **** impresses American morons.

TheBig3 · 04-20-2020, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

The people who voted for him wanted a huge nuclear arsenal. Supported amping up the Cold War and objected to implementing an energy policy that would have revolutionized the world and would’ve given us a chance to fight climate change.

Reagan amplified everything that was bad about America ten fold.

And ftr I’m glad he suffered for years and died like a little bitch wearing a diaper.

This is a position you can take in hindsight, but that's like dunking on a toddler. The odds are rigged in your favor.

Your broad-stroke analysis of his support is ill-informed. His victory in 1984 was one of the largest wins in American history. I don't like Reagan nor do I support his views. But my opinion has no bearing on reality.

OccultHawk · 04-20-2020, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

This is a position you can take in hindsight, but that's like dunking on a toddler. The odds are rigged in your favor.

Your broad-stroke analysis of his support is ill-informed. His victory in 1984 was one of the largest wins in American history. I don't like Reagan nor do I support his views. But my opinion has no bearing on reality.

I watched that debate live as a kid and even then I could see through his bull****.

His big win is one thing among millions that prove America deserves no place in this world.

OccultHawk · 04-20-2020, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

tbf it's a low bar to be the best American president

Church

OccultHawk · 04-20-2020, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

like don't get me mistaken, there were still bad bad international crimes committed under Carter's administration

Church

Anteater · 04-20-2020, 09:09 PM

TheBig3 · 04-21-2020, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I watched that debate live as a kid and even then I could see through his bull****.

His big win is one thing among millions that prove America deserves no place in this world.

I thought this was a thread for adults. With comments like that, I think we should change the title.

The concept that America is the worst country in history, and that somehow we've cheated our way to the top is analogous to "The moon landing was faked."

It's not a position that warrants thoughtful discussion. It's just entitled virtue signaling in which the goal is "I want to tell everyone I'm very smart and morally upright." But it isn't factual.

If there's any reason to look at American's with disdain, it's their laziness when it comes to their civil duty.

OccultHawk · 04-21-2020, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I thought this was a thread for adults. With comments like that, I think we should change the title.

The concept that America is the worst country in history, and that somehow we've cheated our way to the top is analogous to "The moon landing was faked."

It's not a position that warrants thoughtful discussion. It's just entitled virtue signaling in which the goal is "I want to tell everyone I'm very smart and morally upright." But it isn't factual.

If there's any reason to look at American's with disdain, it's their laziness when it comes to their civil duty.

How many corny cliches can you fit in one post?