Doesn't bode well for his image for the general public though, and 100K followers on Twitter is no replacement for people actually knowing who the **** he is, what he stands for, or how his UBI thing isn't Utopian liberal posturing.

Tortoise and the Hare my friend. I'd be a lot more concerned if he botched two or three debates without being able to talk. He's already come way further than anyone could have expected. And without all the connections Bernie leveraged through his years in government to boot.

I don't mind the guy either but let's not be unrealistic here.

He didn't do any tortoise gains in this debate. He talked very quickly cause he knew he needed to get out his position quickly and had no time to follow up so he just looked like a single issue guy and god knows if his single issue is even feasible cause damn did he talk fast.

I honestly can’t believe there’s really anybody left who wants to keep this private insurance ****.

Sunday talks shows are like Americans want to keep their private insurers.

****ing who? Even when I was a teacher my insurance sucked the dong.

This morning Sanders was talking about expanding Medicare for the elderly to provide dental and vision and hearing aids. So as it is right now poor old people just have to let their eyes ears and mouths rot. I didn’t know that.

We really need outlets that can inform without profit motive. It's compromised the 4th estate almost completely at this point.

Lord yes. PBS has more commercials than CBS. And thanks the Koch Brothers daily. It’s obscene.

That’s the conservative argument

I don't know anyone who wants to pay for insurance tbh.

This guy is so very slimy.

Goodness, and it stopped Tucker Carlson from wearing dorky bow ties.

i cant believe how many candidates wanna give free healthcare to illegal immigrants, and wonder how trump won lol

The immigrants are paying taxes, bro. It's not like they're here for free. Do you legit want them to die in the gutter while you leach off of their tax dollars?

no, i think they are needed for our economy and want them to be able to afford ACAhttps://boxden.com/images/icons/nHXEgl8-compressor.png

But you don't want them to have healthcare? You want them to be second class people who give YOU things while you don't give them anything? Isn't that slavery? You want them to be slaves who contribute to your well being while you deny them something so basic as medical care?

lol calm down sweetie :) thats crazy how you got all that, from my statement also :tramp:

I know you were in the military so maybe the answer to this is yes but have you even seen people dying in the streets from disease without any pain medication, shelter or hygiene? Illegals can already usually go to the ER. Most people don’t want to pass people dying on the streets everyday. It’s unpleasant. They’re typically in puddles of feces and urine and that attracts insects. It’s unsanitary. Not so nice for the kids.

What if it’s strep throat? The flu? Pneumonia? Should we treat it or let it spread? What if it’s scabies or lice? Should they clear it up or wait until it’s infected, ultra contagious and even life threatening.

Every human being on earth should get free health care.

What’s the point of dumping Trump if we don’t do something good with his replacement?

**** pandering to heartless swing voters. The progressive message is taking hold. This is our time. The Tea Party did it for the wrong reasons. Now we’re going to change the game for the right reasons. Get on board son.

I think I got it from the lack of thought you seem to have put into your post. Maybe consider where what you said leads if you're not just a middle class white person.

Yeah but why would you scoff at the idea that all our fellow human beings should receive health care regardless of their economic status?

i guess im glad the dems are trying to get something started rather than conservatives wanting to drop ACA and not replace it

i think of my relatives who came over and if they got sick... https://boxden.com/smilies/4gk3CmS.png

The logical conclusion is dems wanting to finish what they started and give medical care for everyone. The political realities are whatever, but the political principles should be to make everyone's lives better, no matter what their citizenship status is. Who cares if they're citizens? Citizenship is just an arbitrary status that means nothing when considering when someone should be treated like a human being, just like how it shouldn't matter whether someone is a citizen when considering whether our armed forces should shoot that person dead.

No way are you going to take MY money and use it to HELP people in MY country

*gives half of taxes to the war machine*

Except for the guy who thinks black kids shouldn't go to the same schools as white kids.

Edit: Biden not OH.

TBH, we should be getting our own health care **** together before we worry about paying for the health care of people who don't even pay property tax most of the time, yet whose kids still get shoved into the public school system and swell up classroom sizes to unsustainable levels.

They're a part of our health care system too, silly.

False. Class size is mandated by law.

Plus ESOL kids are generally cooperative and studious.

Funding through property tax directly into the district is Jim Crowy af btw

Dude, my mom has been teaching special ed. in public school for nearly 30 years. The amount of IEPs she was doing was going up every single year. Mandated by law or not, this **** is ridiculous.

I doubt many of those IEPs are for illegals.

My bad.

It's a partisan distinction. It doesn't actually matter.

it actually does because humanization

Yeah, that's the partisan issue. Undocumented isn't really any more correct illegal. Undocumented immigrants are here illegally.

Yeah but to call them illegals suggests that you probably recognize the legitimacy of that law. Again, my bad.

Just being here without authorization (lapsed tourism or work visa, f. ex.) isn't technically illegal, it's just a civil offense. So "illegal immigrant" doesn't apply. Crossing the border without papers is a federal misdemeanor, so would only apply to those people.

edit: yeah what elph said

no human being is illegal

Anne Frank was illegally hiding in that attic.

Being an illegal is cool as **** because American law is trash. Don't take that cred from those who earned it.

JFT was illegal.

Hell yeah!

Who else here is illegal?

*double checks to make sure that badge isn't showing*