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Old 08-17-2017, 02:16 PM   #541 (permalink)
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What was the point then? What I got from it was violence is justified in the event that people are worked up.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:20 PM   #542 (permalink)
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Like I've said tolerating intolerance is not a logical concept to me

They've thrown the first punch by pushing an agenda that seeks to violently subjugate

Antifa is rooted in post WW2 Germany where the question was asked why so little was done to resist the creep of fascism

This shouldn't be confused with thinking the gov should limit speech I just can't say that all forms of political violence are bad, the ideology matters a lot
In the case of modern Nazis what are you hoping to achieve? Do you think starting a riot will convince the Nazis of the error of their ways? Will it make them too scared to throw down again? Will it convince the populace watching it on the news that your side is right? What exactly is the benefit? Their ideology is already marginalized in the extreme, and the racialist bits that they share with mainstream strong conservatives aren't going to be discredited by knuckles and bicycle chains.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:20 PM   #543 (permalink)
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What was the point then? What I got from it was violence is justified in the event that people are worked up.
I didn't say justified. But smetimes it just happens when passions boil over. Ever been in a fight? Ever started a fight?

Not everyone has the same level of passive restraint either. We're all wired differently.
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Old 08-17-2017, 02:21 PM   #544 (permalink)
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I say one side wants to promote hate, bigotry, racism, and fear and the other side is not going sit by idle.
You don't know much about Antifa and other more violent left wing protest groups do you? They don't just shut down white supremacy events, they protest and attempt to prevent public speakers they don't agree with from being able to talk. They burn stuff and throw bricks at people who disagree.

As I said, you may agree with their dislike of Ben Shapiro - for example - but do you agree that Ben Shapiro should be able to go and give a talk without having people blocking the entrance? Trying to shut down that exchange of ideas.
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I didn't say justified. But smetimes it just happens when passions boil over. Ever been in a fight? Ever started a fight?

Not everyone has the same level of passive restraint either. We're all wired differently.
Look up the word infer
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The only violence I can respect is assassinating some influential hitlery political leader.
Beating up some right wing dumbass on the street is surely satisfying but pointless as ****.
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You don't know much about Antifa and other more violent left wing protest groups do you?
Yes I do. But the vast majority of the protesters in Virginia were not Antifa.

It was not Nazis vs Antifa like you are trying to make it out to be.
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A civil rights investigation is under way. That's about it I think.
Oh, ok. That's fine then. Like I said, I haven't been paying attention, my information is still like two days old.
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Ever been in a fight? Ever started a fight?
I've been in 3 fights, only one of which I started and not a single one was a justified use of violence. By the time I got to my second year of making people angry at college parties, I began taking the de-escalation approach which usually involves a bear hug where I bring them to the ground until they chill out.

And have you forgotten that personalization does nothing for me in an argument? Go toss your schmaltzy Tom Hanks film reasoning at someone else.
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