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Frownland 04-14-2020 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2112482)
And WE’RE under reporting deaths.

100%

I wonder how many unaccounted for homeless people this has killed under the radar.

OccultHawk 04-14-2020 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2112485)
Ignoring the period of time where China pretended like it wasn't a real thing that ultimately lead to it becoming a global pandemic. Yeah, once they actually took it seriously they did better than we are doing now.

Imagine if it had originated in America. We probably wouldn’t have even identified the virus.

Lucem Ferre 04-14-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2112487)
Imagine if it had originated in America. We probably wouldn’t have even identified the virus.

Probably.

People on facebook are spreading conspiracy theories that hospitals are reporting every death as a covid-19 death.

Or that 99% survival rate means it's not a big deal which is also the survival rate for the Columbine massacre.

Frownland 04-14-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2112487)
Imagine if it had originated in America. We probably wouldn’t have even identified the virus.

We most likely would have stifled reporting of that virus when it did get discovered to avoid public panic so that we could try to solve it behind the scenes, only to publicly come to terms with the situation once the severity has made itself clear.

Not sure where I got that precedent from, it just came to me I guess.

OccultHawk 04-14-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2112486)
100%

I wonder how many unaccounted for homeless people this has killed under the radar.

****loads. NYC has been picking up an additional 200 dead bodies a week above average. Some of those are also people who just decided to risk dying at home alone rather than rack up medical death. I’m pretty sure Americans have more medical debt than any other country on earth. Is that more reverse American exceptionalism intellectual equivalent to nationalism or is it just ****ing true?

OccultHawk 04-14-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2112484)
Taiwan is either supreme champions of this virus or also f*cking liars.

They took SARS very seriously and learned from it. They also actually educate their citizens.

Frownland 04-14-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2112491)
****loads. NYC has been picking up an additional 200 dead bodies a week above average. Some of those are also people who just decided to risk dying at home alone rather than rack up medical death. I’m pretty sure Americans have more medical debt than any other country on earth. Is that more reverse American exceptionalism intellectual equivalent to nationalism or is it just ****ing true?

Both.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2112493)
They took SARS very seriously and learned from it. They also actually educate their citizens.

Dude. Fighting Anteater's fire with fire just leaves us with two pairs of soggy boots.

jwb 04-14-2020 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 2112481)
Dude, every country responded badly. Every. Single. One. South Korea's own CDC admitted that every citizen is going to get it. People are getting out of the hospitals and then testing positive again for it.

From America to Denmark, we might as well just hope nitric oxide gas or something turns out to be a short term answer. Otherwise everyone's ****ed. Thanks China!

The stats Google has for SK shows they peaked a long time ago and are currently at ~10,000 cases and 222 deaths. That doesn't seem bad at all to me.

Italy and Spain have higher death rates than the US by a wide margin if you divide by the population or even by the number of confirmed cases. They definitely are being accused of bungling the response but they also had aging populations hit hard by the virus.
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2112486)
100%

I wonder how many unaccounted for homeless people this has killed under the radar.

The idea that deaths can happen under the radar is still different from actively manipulating known statistics, which is what people are accusing China of doing. And by a wide margin. Like 2 million+ cases instead of the reported 80,000. But I don't know how true these accusations are. China just lifted the lockdown in Wuhan so perhaps time will tell.

Frownland 04-14-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2112503)
The idea that deaths can happen under the radar is still different from actively manipulating known statistics

Neat!

"I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship"
-Xi Jinpig

debaserr 04-14-2020 11:42 AM

Honestly I think the spotlight COVID has placed Trump under is good for him.

Instead of focusing on his repeated, blatant criminality they can focus instead on his incompetence.


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