Political Discussions for "Adults"

TheBig3 · 04-28-2020, 05:49 PM

Elf, my dear man. When you take whacks at someone, they're going to compare you to him. Make sure you're going to have that fight on your home court.

As for a doc. maker needing to have an opinion. Disagree. I think it's a presentation of facts.

OccultHawk · 04-28-2020, 05:54 PM

Just because Chomsky opposed NATO bombing doesn’t mean he supported Slobodan Milošević.

**Frownland** · 04-28-2020, 06:11 PM

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As for a doc. maker needing to have an opinion. Disagree. I think it's a presentation of facts.

That's the ideal for sure. The issue is that documentaries are movies or series, so people approach them with a preconception that they're going to be watching something entertaining and cinematic. The cinematic playbook is built around evoking emotions, which leads to many documentaries spending a lot of time clipping their facts to make them more snippy and introducing suspense/conflict/etc. in the editing room to evoke the intended response that the unedited interviews and other material just doesn't muster. Audiences reward this, so these are the documentaries that studios will take a chance on funding. Emotions are great for persuasion, so activists use that cinematic pathos as a tool to spread awareness for their message, often successfully when it reaches the intended audience despite how accurate the facts presented are. Combine those two and you have a field so dominated by documentarians looking to enforce their opinion that it seems like the rule. Seems like series can get away with being a little (emphasis on little) more fact-based since they only need to hold the audience's attention for an episodic amount of time.

I prefer meta-analyses.

OccultHawk · 04-28-2020, 06:29 PM

Every word spoken or written comes with an agenda. There’s no such thing as just putting out the facts.

DwnWthVwls · 04-28-2020, 06:35 PM

Sometimes you say weird things.

**Frownland** · 04-28-2020, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Every word spoken or written comes with an agenda. There’s no such thing as just putting out the facts.

Nah.

TheBig3 · 04-28-2020, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Every word spoken or written comes with an agenda. There’s no such thing as just putting out the facts.

It's just like...what even is reality?

Mindfulness · 04-29-2020, 05:24 AM

wonder how voting will go this year. itll be no problem where im at but in hartford and new haven and stuff itll be crazy if the virus is still going on or comes back.

Anteater · 05-02-2020, 07:23 AM

Brotha knows what's up.

WWWP · 05-02-2020, 11:04 AM

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Brotha knows what's up.

04-28-2020, 05:54 PM	#5862 (permalink)
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04-28-2020, 06:29 PM	#5864 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	Every word spoken or written comes with an agenda. There’s no such thing as just putting out the facts. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

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Mindfulness Be aware of the psyop Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 10,000	wonder how voting will go this year. itll be no problem where im at but in hartford and new haven and stuff itll be crazy if the virus is still going on or comes back. Last edited by Mindfulness; 04-30-2020 at 07:05 PM.

04-28-2020, 05:49 PM	#5861 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Elf, my dear man. When you take whacks at someone, they're going to compare you to him. Make sure you're going to have that fight on your home court. As for a doc. maker needing to have an opinion. Disagree. I think it's a presentation of facts.