Hillary won Cali by like 30 points lol

(Shhhhh....let the prophecy self-fulfill)

California will never go red and that's a fact!

I didn't mean California specifically, rather taking states for granted in general. Specifically, I was talking about the Blue Wall states that Hillary hardly campaigned in.

Sorry I forgot that I need to pretend Cali is a swing state in order not to jinx the election.

Nah you don't have to pretend because California will never go red and that's a fact!

Theoretically any state can flip. Especially when you allow for an unlimited timespan. It's not something that seems likely any time soon given current trends, from what I've seen.

That's fair enough but I'm not saying don't campaign there. There is just a calculus that comes into play thanks to the electoral college and the fact that some states are more predictable than others. Otherwise they would just go by population to decide how to allocate campaign resources which I think would likely be a massive strategic error.

You'll see. You'll all see. You underestimate how over libs people are.

https://www.mapsofworld.com/election...california.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_2016.svg.png
2016

Scary maps you got there pal.

2016: 61.5% D - 31.5% R
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/20...lts/california
2012: 59.3% D - 38.3% R
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/20...alifornia.html
2008: 60.9% D - 37.3% R
https://www.nytimes.com/elections/20...alifornia.html

That's some amazing momentum they're building up :laughing:

Yup, you're preaching to the choir. Biden doesn't have to worry about CA, and I'd bet my salary on it. Some states are closer to swing states than others, and it would make most sense to focus on those. CA is not one of those states when it comes to presidential elections.

Maybe, 20 years down the road, it will be a different story, but not this time.