Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 08-23-2020, 04:20 PM

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you think Bush faked being a bumbling idiot cause he knew the negative reaction all his policies would get but wanted to deflect the blame?

I think he tried to play it off like he was regular Texas good ol boy when he was really a Yankee intellectual.

~~jwb~~ · 08-23-2020, 04:30 PM

That's true enough but I don't think he faked being dumb/clumsy with words. I think his stupidity was over exaggerated but I don't think the "fool me once can't be fooled again" type gaffes were staged.

And I think he honestly expected Iraq to be much more successful than it was.

Anteater · 08-23-2020, 04:54 PM

Bush really was that stupid. Cheney was the scary one.

SGR · 08-23-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

.. you think Bush faked being a bumbling idiot cause he knew the negative reaction all his policies would get but wanted to deflect the blame? That's a hell of a theory.

Like I said though we've gotten way off point. Replace GW with Jeb Bush and the point is the same.

I should be careful with my words. I don't think he 'faked' it per se, but I do think he purposely cultivated that image (and did so successfully as you can see from Anteater's post above), especially as it became more obvious that the war was not going well.

~~jwb~~ · 08-23-2020, 05:50 PM

Cultivated it how?

Mindfulness · 08-23-2020, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That’s wild.

Ultra wild

SGR · 08-23-2020, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Cultivated it how?

Here's a speech he gave in 2001 in which he spends the majority of said speech in reading from a "Bushisms" book.

Struggling to figure out how to put on a rain poncho during Trump's inauguration.

And of course, his vocal love for one of his favorite hobbies, painting cute pictures.

Of course, my opinion on him cultivating this image is somewhat of a hot take. There's no way (at least now) to know for certain, but I do think he was smarter than people give him credit for and I do think he cultivated the image of him being an idiot to disarm people and make them more forgiving of his legacy. Me, personally? I think he's a war criminal that should be in jail. And even if Jeb was running against Trump, I'd still vote for Trump because **** the Bush dynasty. America has had enough Bushes. It's easy for most Americans to forget about Abu Ghraib - in fact, I'd imagine less than 10% of Americans would know what it is if you took a massive poll - but the Bush government oversaw some absolutely horrendous abuses of human rights. If one were to tell me that Bush didn't know about these black site torture camps, I'd be as convinced and persuaded if one were to tell me that Stalin didn't know about the gulags or that Hitler didn't know about Auschwitz and Dachau. If it were up to me, Bush Jr. would be painting his puppies from a prison cell.

Reminds me of something Nietzsche once said:

"Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Mindfulness · 08-24-2020, 05:46 AM

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The vice presidential debate is scheduled to take place on Wednesday, October 7, 2020, at Kingsbury Hall at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.

Mrs. Harris finna take mike's lunch snack and eat it in front of him...

TheBig3 · 08-24-2020, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

On another note, I hope the Dems aren't counting on the youth vote if we all vote-by-mail. Young folks today don't even know how to send things in the mail.

"Wait, I need a stamp? Okay - and where can I get one of those?"

You said this tongue-in-cheek, right?

SGR · 08-24-2020, 09:27 AM

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You said this tongue-in-cheek, right?

Yes.

The youth don't vote anyway (in large numbers).

08-23-2020, 04:30 PM	#7922 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	That's true enough but I don't think he faked being dumb/clumsy with words. I think his stupidity was over exaggerated but I don't think the "fool me once can't be fooled again" type gaffes were staged. And I think he honestly expected Iraq to be much more successful than it was.

08-23-2020, 05:50 PM	#7925 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Cultivated it how?