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Trollheart 12-06-2020 08:27 AM

Stop complaining about me complaining about you complaining. Lodge a formal complaints with the complaints board. I have to go, I have a complaint of the stomach and the complaints department is only open for another two hours.

The Batlord 12-06-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2148351)
America is the world’s biggest problem. We should be rejected on every front.

Then reject the First Amendment and stop talking, you moron. Bitching about anti-bigotry like you have any ideas worth reading ffs.

jwb 12-06-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2148314)
Well if you don’t ignore the supernatural **** you might as well be reading Tolkien. Any serious reader should be looking for what the legit philosophic message is. A charismatic central figure goes around talking about turning the other cheek and loving the poor and he doesn’t lift a finger in his own self-defense when crucified.

That’s the forest.

The trees with with no literary merit are his mom was a virgin, his dad was an invisible sky man, he could heal people and walk on water, he came back from the dead and so on.

I get that the way it’s peppered and pasted together it seems like the main idea is for the reader to find the path to salvation but a discerning reader should be able to see what the real authors meant before they retarded it up.

I get what you mean in terms of the symbolic message you can gleam from certain parts of the bible in isolation. But you are projecting when you say the original authors only meant to use the supernatural stuff as a metaphor. They were literally a religious cult who believed whole heartedly in said salvation.

The same hippy who said not to cast the first stone said he came to bring the sword. To divide families against one another. To set things right once and for all.

And that's how christianity was practiced. Very predictably. If you take it at all serious you can't ignore the underlying ethos which is the strict mosaic law that man is so incapable of following that it requires Christ to redeem humanity.

I'm not saying a secular reader can't derive positive insight from the Bible. But that doesn't make them a "good Christian.' if only Christ were compelling us all to be more like him, that would be true. But instead he laments the fact that he knows we won't.

OccultHawk 12-06-2020 11:06 AM

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But you are projecting when you say the original authors only meant to use the supernatural stuff as a metaphor.
I didn’t say that. I figure the core story came from certain authors and the add ons from others. It’s layers and layers of plagiarism.

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Then reject the First Amendment and stop talking, you moron. Bitching about anti-bigotry like you have any ideas worth reading ffs.
Boohoo. You need to get over your illusions that all this oppression isn’t class oppression. You can’t fight any injustice playing a game to get rich. At least their skinhead fans are honest about who they are.

OccultHawk 12-06-2020 11:41 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spi...ll-revolt/amp/

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Quite why British football players are still bowing down in sorrow over a police killing that took place months ago and thousands of miles away is anyone’s guess. A group of Millwall fans, who came to watch a football game, not yet another spectacle of obedient subjugation to the politics of identity, booed and jeered. Everyone’s shocked. Which is mad. It would have been far more shocking — and disappointing — if fans hadn’t booed.

Of course, the anti-working-class left and the NuFootball commentariat (who love the beautiful game but loathe its ugly fans) instantly found the Millwall fans guilty of racism.
QPR is going to **** them up on Tuesday though.

The Batlord 12-06-2020 11:58 AM

**** off with that fake ****. You bitch about anti-bigotry while framing it in some weird right wing ethnostate isolationism nonsense and then you call black football players gorillas. Shows that underneath all your BS faux socialist posteuring that you're just a racist who got mad at BLM no different from any other racist grandpa.

Marie Monday 12-06-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2148418)
**** off with that fake ****. You bitch about anti-bigotry while framing it in some weird right wing ethnostate isolationism nonsense and then you call black football players gorillas. Shows that underneath all your BS faux socialist posteuring that you're just a racist who got mad at BLM no different from any other racist grandpa.

he said that? ewwww
I think his progressive views are sincere, but they're a layer of varnish over a bunch of rusty reactionary notions.

OccultHawk 12-06-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday (Post 2148423)
he said that? ewwww
I think his progressive views are sincere, but they're a layer of varnish over a bunch of rusty reactionary notions.

I called NFL players gorillas. Which is quite disrespectful to gorillas tbh

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No one likes us, no one likes us
No one likes us, we don't care!

We are Millwall, super Millwall
We are Millwall from The Den!

Trollheart 12-06-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2148416)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spi...ll-revolt/amp/



QPR is going to **** them up on Tuesday though.

I find the notion that this guy you quoted seems to think the fact that George (Pink) Floyd died "months ago" and "thousands of miles away" somehow negates the crime reprehensible. So we should just forget it and move on, should we? Not like it was an isolated incident. Should we also shrug and say the holocaust was over 75 years ago man, give it up?

I should point out these are not OH's words and I am actually angry (furious actually) at the writer of the piece he quoted.

OccultHawk 12-06-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2148418)
**** off with that fake ****. You bitch about anti-bigotry while framing it in some weird right wing ethnostate isolationism nonsense and then you call black football players gorillas. Shows that underneath all your BS faux socialist posteuring that you're just a racist who got mad at BLM no different from any other racist grandpa.

I support BLM if they’re burning down buildings. Not if they’re selling Nikes.


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