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Old 07-13-2017, 02:06 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I'd be open to giving everyone one chance to **** up.. then theyre gone for good.
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:11 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Yeah, I tried.. I can't think of anything I appreciate that he has done either.
As a sidebar, my stepmom's mom use to volunteer in the kitchen of a Catholic church. She told me how the priests and other staff demanded only the best of the best when it came to meat and other ingrediants. They would actually get pissed if the food wasn't gourmet quality. Spending excess money that could have been donated to the poor.

I hope to live long enough to see churches taxed on their profits. This **** has to stop.

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Old 07-13-2017, 02:14 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I hope to live long enough to see religion extinguished from society. I genuinely feel bad for all the people who waste their lives living in fear of being themselves.
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:17 PM   #54 (permalink)
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I hope to live long enough to see churches taxed on their profits. This **** has to stop.


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Old 07-13-2017, 02:17 PM   #55 (permalink)
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How does that work then with the Kennedys? Okay, JFK's presidency had some problems (whose doesn't?) but he ran on the basis of his father's power and connections, and yet is recognised as one of the best and most loved presidents in history. Much of that could be misplaced sympathy of course, but it does seem like he did, or tried to do, a lot of good in his time as the occupant of the house that is not black....
He's loved because he was pretty and got shot, not for anything policy related.
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:24 PM   #56 (permalink)
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He's loved because he was pretty and got shot, not for anything policy related.
Well now, didn't he face off against Krushchev and pull the world back from the brink of nuclear war? And preside over the Apollo programme? I admit I'm not all that familiar with his administration, so maybe you're right. I suppose it would be better maybe to ask, what did he do that was bad, as it were? Whether you use him as an example or not, I think excluding politicians on the basis of ambition is ridiculous; you have to have ambition to get on in politics. Perhaps it's more about how that ambition is directed? If you want to get into politics (or, eventually, the White House) in order to help people by passing legislation etc, that's one thing. If you see injustice and want to combat it, you surely need ambition for that. If, however, you're just ambitious to line your own pockets, well, that's another story.
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:27 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Cuban. Missile. Crisis. Read up on history. The dude was probably the last great American President.

Such a naive and stupid post Frown. Dissapointing.
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Insults are not how adults discuss politics Chula.

Great American president is an oxymoron. Not a single respectable one imo. History is friendly to ones that end in tragedy, like with JFK.

Edit: I would have a beer with Teddy Roosevelt to discuss moustaches but that's it.
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:39 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Cuban. Missile. Crisis. Read up on history. The dude was probably the last great American President.

Such a naive and stupid post Frown. Dissapointing.
If Nixon had handled the Cuban Missile Crisis the exact same way history would read it like the fool almost got us all killed. Missiles in Cuba? Do they kill you deader than ICBM from Russia? The stupid obsession with proximity is only symbolic. ****head JFK got us started in Vietnam as well. Frown is totally right. He's romanticized because we got to see his brains on TV. The pretty face all messed up forever. It has nothing to do with politics. He brought us LBJ for ****'s sake.
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:48 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Admittedly, I'm not all that well-versed on JFK, but I love him for this speech alone.

But since this thread is for adults only, I'll see myself out.
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