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Old 07-15-2017, 11:53 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Still deeply offended towards the attitudes that the ex-military and elderly shouldn't be assisted.

Firemen and policemen have it pretty good once they retire. (my nephew, and brother in law are firemen and one of my best friends is a cop). The pension plans for those jobs in most cases are pretty damn sweet compared to the VAST majority of most folks. And you can retire a lot earlier and still get full benefits.

Never, ever once attended a lecture. Maybe that's why my input is so obtuse?
Nobody's talking about pensions. They're talking about senior citizen drinks at Burger King, which is kind of pointless and doesn't particularly help anyone. I'm all for Medicaid and Social Security and more services for ex-military, but a discount for a movie is basically just a supposed reward from a company that doesn't even care.

A reward should be for someone worth rewarding, and while plenty of the elderly and the military are perfectly non-****ty people as far as people go, you never know which one's a sex offender, murderer, neo-Nazi, or dog fighter. The government owes the military for being their service, and the elderly for paying so much into the system, but a discount from a business should go to people who aren't scum.
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Old 07-15-2017, 11:55 AM   #152 (permalink)
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Well it depends on if you want to be entertained or educated. The work phase is assessment and something must be taught before it can be assessed. If students aren't learning during a competent lecture they're either stupid or lazy. Discussions feel nice and look good because there's naturally high engagement. Unless it's free it shouldn't be an equalitarian situation. The professor is being paid supposedly because he knows the content. Unless the students are being formally assessed they should be listening and asking questions only.
Lectures are derived from before books were mass produced, where professors would dictate books for the class to copy. These days they can assign a reading and stick to more constructive approaches for class and cut the fat. If students aren't learning from a competent reading source and need it to be said out loud for them to understand it, they're either stupid or lazy.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:00 PM   #153 (permalink)
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I hate America's tender hearted obsession with babying military veterans. I never asked anyone to get involved in this bull****. Why would I feel grateful to people who do **** I'm against?
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And what about the elderly who are still healthy and functional? I think elderly who cannot work should just be under disability, since it is essentially the same thing. That would also iron out the difficulty of keeping that social program in line with societal changes in health improvements. What if the average lifespan became 110? It would be difficult to continue starting financial assistance for the elderly at 65.
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Lectures are derived from before books were mass produced, where professors would dictate books for the class to copy. These days they can assign a reading and stick to more constructive approaches for class and cut the fat. If students aren't learning from a competent reading source and need it to be said out loud for them to understand it, they're either stupid or lazy.
That's a good rebuttal.
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I hate America's tender hearted obsession with babying military veterans. I never asked anyone to get involved in this bull****. Why would I feel grateful to people who do **** I'm against?
I don't know about grateful, but I have respect for someone who willingly walked into a firefight for something they believed in, even if I don't respect the cause itself.
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I don't know about grateful, but I have respect for someone who willingly walked into a firefight for something they believed in, even if I don't respect the cause itself.
This just in: Batlord respects ISIS.
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Old 07-15-2017, 12:09 PM   #158 (permalink)
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This just in: Batlord respects ISIS.
It's not a hardline rule. I'm sure plenty of pedophiles hit the beaches on D-Day, and I can respect the courage at least some of them showed, but it's kind of counteracted by the ****ing of children.
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You can have admiration/respect of someones traits/accomplishments without respecting them as a person.
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Just to clarify, your position is: I feel differently about certain societal norms, therefore I take the events which helped mold those norms for granted? Have you ever considered that I don't take them for granted and just came to a different conclusion about what the appropriate response should be?

What is my mentality exactly? I'd never mistreat them, but my reason for doing so is not because they are vets. I wouldn't mistreat them because they are human beings. I wouldn't be a dick to Hitler either. I don't believe in treating people poorly. Those that I don't like I won't go out of my way to help or interact with, but I'd never treat anyone differently from the expectations I hold myself accountable to when interacting with society. (That's a lie actually, sometimes I'm a dick online when playing video games, but it's mostly caused by people playing team games and then refusing to work cooperatively or intentionally throwing games in competitive modes/piss poor selfish attitudes. I do try to keep myself calm and collected, but sometimes I just hate people on the internet.)
I don't think you understood my first statement. What alternatives do you think should have been taking for all the wars and conflicts thar have happened throughout history besides just not engaging in a conflict to begin with?


People with your mentality tend to act rudely towards those that do ask for military discounts. You might not do yourself but when they think service members don't deserve a discount they usually create a scene about it.

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Nobody's talking about pensions. They're talking about senior citizen drinks at Burger King, which is kind of pointless and doesn't particularly help anyone. I'm all for Medicaid and Social Security and more services for ex-military, but a discount for a movie is basically just a supposed reward from a company that doesn't even care.

A reward should be for someone worth rewarding, and while plenty of the elderly and the military are perfectly non-****ty people as far as people go, you never know which one's a sex offender, murderer, neo-Nazi, or dog fighter. The government owes the military for being their service, and the elderly for paying so much into the system, but a discount from a business should go to people who aren't scum.
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What if the average lifespan became 110? It would be difficult to continue starting financial assistance for the elderly at 65.
The retirement age has already shifted slightly so I am sure if the average lifespan becomes 110. It will be shifted even more.

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I wouldn't assume it would be mostly the impoverished especially since you have to have a high school diploma to enlist

But it's a disproportionate amount along with the great number of middle class who find they have no opportunity post high school
If you are lumping the two together then fine but there is a large number of middle class that end up enlisting.
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