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Old 04-03-2020, 05:52 PM   #5361 (permalink)
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So? Based on your logic, since every single American doesn't face poverty, America isn't as bad as everyone says. Quit wasting your time on morons and recognize that two things can suck at the same time.
The reason I don’t respond to this very sound argument is because those countries aren’t killing me. I’m biased against America and it’s a personal vendetta. Even if my vitriol is overstated or even more simply not true I don’t care. **** America.
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Old 04-03-2020, 05:54 PM   #5362 (permalink)
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Well then your arguments aren't based in reality and can't be convincing to anyone but you.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 04-03-2020, 05:59 PM   #5363 (permalink)
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Well then your arguments aren't based in reality and can't be convincing to anyone but you.
Idgaf anymore. I’m post-truth. I’m post-meaning. And I think those qualities are working for others. Just keep repeating it and show no shame in self-contradiction. Back on the horse again. Rinse repeat. Second verse same as the first. 1234.
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Old 04-03-2020, 06:06 PM   #5364 (permalink)
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I'm cuter than Post Malone.
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Old 04-03-2020, 06:15 PM   #5365 (permalink)
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Idgaf anymore. I’m post-truth. I’m post-meaning. And I think those qualities are working for others. Just keep repeating it and show no shame in self-contradiction. Back on the horse again. Rinse repeat. Second verse same as the first. 1234.
Like, I actually understand the gist of what you're saying. The firehose method of propaganda used by Putin and Trump to confuse reality by simply applying the benefit of the doubt in ways that are impossible to deal with have been used in less explicit forms exactly all of human history to make people less sure of themselves, and I can see how our using facts and logic can do the same to you in a way that is honest but in 99% of human discourse ends up with tricking the person into falling into #normal ways of thinking even when accepting those ideas didn't require falling into those ways of thinking and the people inserting facts and logic weren't even attempting to subvert free thought.

It's just the way human social behavior works. It's about conformity, not enlightenment.
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Like, I actually understand the gist of what you're saying. The firehose method of propaganda used by Putin and Trump to confuse reality by simply applying the benefit of the doubt in ways that are impossible to deal with have been used in less explicit forms exactly all of human history to make people less sure of themselves, and I can see how our using facts and logic can do the same to you in a way that is honest but in 99% of human discourse ends up with tricking the person into falling into #normal ways of thinking even when accepting those ideas didn't require falling into those ways of thinking and the people inserting facts and logic weren't even attempting to subvert free thought.

It's just the way human social behavior works. It's about conformity, not enlightenment.
All the more reason we need robot authoritarians.
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****. Yes. Military school sucked ass but one thing I don't miss is having my entire life dictated so I don't have to worry about choice.
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Watching an interview with Chuck Schumer.

He called for this to be declared a national emergency on Jan. 26

Trump gains support by blaming it on the “impeachment hoax”

Just recently I was trying to read some stuff by Willard Van Orman Quine who was a philosopher whose ideas about linquistics influenced Chomsky.

I was reading it without any notes on what it means and it’s over my head but I still think what he was getting at was the more you break language down the less meaning it has and since it’s meaningless at a super micro level there’s always that ghost of ambiguity at the level of basic communication.

So next is just my own thought about that but if you can use that ghost of ambiguity inside the words effectively and you use verbal communication as a means to power it works. People who never or only rarely read have far less experience with language so they get tripped up easier. And you can’t build these skills through short fragments like on twitter and Facebook. You actually have to read books. Even more challenging, you even need to read books that aren’t fun to read.
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