Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 12-05-2020, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by debaserr

Honestly kind of shocked Trump didn't enrich his contractor buddies with a fresh war.

It ain’t over.

Iran. China. Blue States.

~~jwb~~ · 12-05-2020, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Of course I’ve read it. “Entire” was an overstatement.

I know you have. I'm saying the hippy Jesus angle really gets over hyped when people talk about being Christian. Being Christian means standing by and waiting for the apocalypse. Death and destruction. The majority of Zionist support in America are evangelical Christians who think armageddon is going to start in Israel. That's just as Christian as turning the other cheek etc. It's a death cult plain and simple.

~~jwb~~ · 12-05-2020, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

maybe I'm of the rare opinion that Maher is legit a funny guy

I'm a lot more left than him, but he's still funny

he's witty but he's not that funny tbh. Doesn't make me laugh.

He just has a pompous way of expressing half thought out opinions as if they're gospel.

But you and me obliviously have a different sense of humor. Anyone who doesn't find Patrice o'neal funny is dead to me comedically.

OccultHawk · 12-05-2020, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I know you have. I'm saying the hippy Jesus angle really gets over hyped when people talk about being Christian. Being Christian means standing by and waiting for the apocalypse. Death and destruction. The majority of Zionist support in America are evangelical Christians who think armageddon is going to start in Israel. That's just as Christian as turning the other cheek etc. It's a death cult plain and simple.

If you read it from the perspective that all the supernatural stuff is silly bs then what’s left is a weird cult leader raving about pacifism and loving the poor.

The New Testament as a whole taken as a work of literature the only real take aways are love the poor and and never strike back even when attacked. Christians always point to particular verses in a text that’s full of all kinds of random weirdness. If you’re literate and can see the forest (main idea and theme) then you can easily see that the philosophy being advocated is in every way completely at odds with America. There’s no way to be a patriotic American and a real Christian because it’s obvious to anyone with any reading comprehension that Christ would’ve hated America as much as I do.

~~jwb~~ · 12-06-2020, 12:33 AM

Actually I think you're the one missing the forest for the trees.

The main message behind "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" type hippy passages is that you don't need to punish sinners cause God will do that for you. And he will do it soon. And it will be bloody. And you will rejoice at the sound of justice being done to those who deserve it.

If you ignore the supernatural elements and focus on the parts you like you aren't even close to seeing the forest. The seeming pacifism is just yet another passive function of waiting for judgement day.

OccultHawk · 12-06-2020, 03:01 AM

Well if you don’t ignore the supernatural **** you might as well be reading Tolkien. Any serious reader should be looking for what the legit philosophic message is. A charismatic central figure goes around talking about turning the other cheek and loving the poor and he doesn’t lift a finger in his own self-defense when crucified.

That’s the forest.

The trees with with no literary merit are his mom was a virgin, his dad was an invisible sky man, he could heal people and walk on water, he came back from the dead and so on.

I get that the way it’s peppered and pasted together it seems like the main idea is for the reader to find the path to salvation but a discerning reader should be able to see what the real authors meant before they retarded it up.

OccultHawk · 12-06-2020, 03:48 AM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ntl/index.html

Fans at Millwall boo players taking a knee on return to stadium

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Across English football, players have been taking a knee in support of the Black Lives Matter movement and to protest against racism and discrimination following the death of George Floyd earlier this year.

Jesus Christ England get America’s dick out of your mouth. I doubt the fans are booing because they’re racist. They’re booing because their team can’t even come up with their own **** and are copying the NFL which has to be one the most corrupt and greediest sports leagues in the western world. Have some ****ing pride and come up with your own ****. Lol. ****ing sad.

OccultHawk · 12-06-2020, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

didn't the NFL ban taking a knee during the anthem

even those white billionaires can’t tell those million dollar gorillas what to do

The NFLPA is probably the strongest union in America. The fans are mostly broke ass Republicans on the other hand.

OccultHawk · 12-06-2020, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

they def tried to

so I wouldn't say it's "copying the NFL"

but anyway the milkshake thing was way cooler than taking a knee

Bitch it started with Kaepernick.

The bobbies didn’t murder George Floyd.

BLM started in America.

The English players are oppressing black people by copying anything American, including our civil rights movement. Soccer is their culture. It’s repulsive to see it polluted with anything American. And it’s embarrassing. What they need to do is to reject all things American, period. Their fans don’t want to see America’s right wing bull**** at their own sporting events.

Refusing to stand for the national anthem in America (something I did in the early nineties at a rodeo before I even heard of anyone else doing it - and no one said ****) isn’t right wing. But mimicking anything American outside of America just spews more American j izz onto their own culture which is the last thing they need.

Anything and everything American is bad. Period. All of it.

Trollheart · 12-06-2020, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ntl/index.html

Fans at Millwall boo players taking a knee on return to stadium

Jesus Christ England get America’s dick out of your mouth. I doubt the fans are booing because they’re racist. They’re booing because their team can’t even come up with their own **** and are copying the NFL which has to be one the most corrupt and greediest sports leagues in the western world. Have some ****ing pride and come up with your own ****. Lol. ****ing sad.

No you're wrong. Millwall have long been known to attract the most racist, white supremacist fans of all the clubs. A lot of it is caricature sure, but they're known for what's called "hooliganism" here, which is basically football-speak for "violent bastards who go to matches just to kick the **** out of the other fans." A popular slur used to be, and still may be, you're as violent as a Millwall supporter. Here:

Generally, fans don't boo before a match; they wait to see how the team does, because the nature of football is that even a ****ty team that is going down can beat a bigger team once in a while, and no matter what, fans always push their team to do well. If they don't, then they may boo them AFTER the match, but almost never before. They were booing the idea of being against racism. No question. No other team's fans did this, ever. And this is the first time fans have been allowed back in the stadium since March - this is how they choose to respond?

12-06-2020, 03:01 AM	#8896 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,033	Well if you don’t ignore the supernatural **** you might as well be reading Tolkien. Any serious reader should be looking for what the legit philosophic message is. A charismatic central figure goes around talking about turning the other cheek and loving the poor and he doesn’t lift a finger in his own self-defense when crucified. That’s the forest. The trees with with no literary merit are his mom was a virgin, his dad was an invisible sky man, he could heal people and walk on water, he came back from the dead and so on. I get that the way it’s peppered and pasted together it seems like the main idea is for the reader to find the path to salvation but a discerning reader should be able to see what the real authors meant before they retarded it up. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

12-06-2020, 12:33 AM	#8895 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Actually I think you're the one missing the forest for the trees. The main message behind "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" type hippy passages is that you don't need to punish sinners cause God will do that for you. And he will do it soon. And it will be bloody. And you will rejoice at the sound of justice being done to those who deserve it. If you ignore the supernatural elements and focus on the parts you like you aren't even close to seeing the forest. The seeming pacifism is just yet another passive function of waiting for judgement day.