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Old 08-12-2017, 09:46 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Oh, this is a thread already. How lovely.

EDIT: I think this article from Chinese state media is worth a look. China's government is aiming for a neutral stance on the Korean issue, and might be the most rational voice right now in the midst of all the warmongering.
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Old 08-12-2017, 03:36 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Oh, this is a thread already. How lovely.

EDIT: I think this article from Chinese state media is worth a look. China's government is aiming for a neutral stance on the Korean issue, and might be the most rational voice right now in the midst of all the warmongering.
China is the reason it has gotten this bad in the first place with their bull**** neutral stance.
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Old 08-12-2017, 04:45 PM   #53 (permalink)
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China is the reason it has gotten this bad in the first place with their bull**** neutral stance.
What should they do? Nuke them? Impose trade embargoes, and starve the Koreans further?

What's needed is a multilateral agreement for de-escalation. This means that the U.S., which has the second-largest nuclear arsenal in the world, must be willing to make compromises, and take its own steps to demilitarize the Korean peninsula. North Korea is the weaker part in the conflict, with a poor economy, only one reliable ally, and a history of foreign invasion. China's leadership understands this better than the U.S. leadership and most Western media.
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What's needed is a multilateral agreement for de-escalation.
Good article on that subject here:

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron
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Old 08-12-2017, 05:01 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Good article on that subject here:

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron
Looks thorough, from my first glance. I'll read through it tomorrow!
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Old 08-12-2017, 05:20 PM   #56 (permalink)
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What should they do? Nuke them? Impose trade embargoes, and starve the Koreans further?
China is the one that should be brokering the deals/agreements. Who said anything about those drastic measures you mentioned.

China is right there in their backyard and already have agreements with North Korea. They decided to just stay out of this conflict for far too long. They should have already stepped in with something.
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China is the one that should be brokering the deals/agreements. Who said anything about those drastic measures you mentioned.

China is right there in their backyard and already have agreements with North Korea. They decided to just stay out of this conflict for far too long. They should have already stepped in with something.
They have already warned North Korea against sharpening their rhetoric against the US, and conducting further missile tests. What more should they do (to prevent a war)?

The US literally leveled all major cities in North Korea with bombs from 1950 to 1953. Since then, they have maintained a military base in the South, in which 30,000 American soldiers are stationed. They have yearly exercises to simulate the destruction of the DPRK, right next to its border. Who is the aggressor here? Who has the main responsibility to seek deescalation? The aggressive empire, the traumatized victim of said empire, or the neutral ally?
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They have already warned North Korea against sharpening their rhetoric against the US, and conducting further missile tests. What more should they do (to prevent a war)?
I don't have the specific answer but they should do more and they have the power to do more than just like well I told them to stop and throw their hands up in the air.

So passive and isn't going to get anything accomplished.
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The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Bring the Troops Home From Korea

I'm not usually one to agree with the Ron Paul gang, but this time they have a point.
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But Ron Paul has always been about having no military presence overseas.
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