the offical north korea war 2 "teh revenge" !!!! thread

[Goofle]

I think he means he disagrees with Ron Paul types when it comes to issues like having their money taken away from them etc.

[Isbjørn]

Originally Posted by Goofle

I think he means he disagrees with Ron Paul types when it comes to issues like having their money taken away from them etc.

Since all value is generated through labor, profits for employers can only be generated through exploitation. Workers have "their money taken away from them" every day at work, as they get back less value in the form of wages than what they generate in production (surplus value).

But for some reason, Ron Paul seems to be one of few reasonable voices when it comes to foreign policy in the US. This is not the first time I've sympathized with libertarian types. Rand Paul correctly opposed the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal, critizised US arming of Syrian rebel groups, and voted against further sanctions against Russia (the only one to do so, apart from Bernie Sanders).

[Isbjørn]

Originally Posted by elphenor

Yeah I tried to teach labor theory of value already

Thanks for keeping it up

[Goofle]

Places of employment grow on trees. Nobody has running costs or loans to pay back or has to put in the work of hiring, delegating, managing and general upkeep. They just have a place that employs people and intentionally pays them so they can keep their money.

The bonkers you have to believe to actually be a legitimate anti-capitalist is unreal.

Edit: I know what I said was a straw man.

[Isbjørn]

Originally Posted by Goofle

Places of employment grow on trees. Nobody has running costs or loans to pay back or has to put in the work of hiring, delegating, managing and general upkeep. They just have a place that employs people and intentionally pays them so they can keep their money.

I see you admit to having made a straw man, but I'll gladly reply to it.

State-run enterprises and workers' cooperatives are perfectly capable of employing people without enriching owners. Both of these exist and are perfectly productive.

Management is legitimate work - simply a necessary role in production - but it can be done for an average wage. However, owners who take out profit are not necessary in production. Many personal fortunes are made from people who simply inherit money or own stocks and shares while they get rich on other people's work, or own companies without participating in neither work nor management.

(At this point I suggest moving the discussion to the "let's talk about capitalism" thread, so as to not derail the conversation)

[GuD]

What is Kim Jung Un's motivation for threatening the US?

Like, really dude.
What did the US ever do to you people?

[Norg]

Originally Posted by GuD

What is Kim Jung Un's motivation for threatening the US?

Like, really dude.
What did the US ever do to you people?

well uhhh in the Korean war the US prob not only bombed the hole country to hell but also bombed women and children

there were reports the Troops raped and killed women in NK some while they were still pregnant ....who knows if true tho I wouldn't doubt it

but anywho its been quite lately I wonder if USA is so thug we don't care if they get advance Long range ICBMS capable of hitting any target in North America ....????


there is a strange game of chess going on here o well ....

[Zhanteimi]

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[Norg]

pff he is not going to do nothing LOL

all we gotta do is make a deal with china to allow usa first strike cus if not this stalemate will just go on for another 50 years ...... we shall cee ..???

[GuD]

Ah,

and now I feel stupid because I remember learning about that in high school and forgot. Faulty memory, makes a fool of anybody. Revenge seems like a warranted motive. Didn't we try and negotiate a peaceful relationship? IDR. The US sucks anyways, bombs away. Or not. Hopefully not. We shall see. And if there are bombs, the dead won't remember them.