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Lucem Ferre

Nope. Because essentially here where you have some mysterious things that you can't explain you insert aliens into the equation. Like the pyramids. Or those giant stone balls every where. There are tons of things ancient human civilizations have made that completely baffles us in meaning and how they were made, so lazily aliens are inserted into those knowledge gaps as some cosmic super force that we just can't explain the same way the supernatural is. It's not scientific because there is no data or facts to support the theory. It's just "holy ****, I don't have any clue what the hell this is or why it's here, it must be aliens". Instead, people should just flat out admit they have no ****ing clue. That fact that we have so many mythological beings portrayed in history is not proof of gods or even an alien presence. If anything it's proof of humanities ability to make **** up.


Mord, name one thing that is true and is not found to be true based on scientific method. You sound like you are somebody who is ignorant of what science is. Probably because your religious background tells you science can't answer everything to keep you indoctrinated into something selling you answers with no logic or reasoning behind it. And don't use an example of something that is true but can't be explained. That's the arrogance of these types of minds. Where science says, "I don't know yet" you guys say, "see, they don't have all the answers" then insert your agenda into these knowledge gaps that are slowly getting smaller and smaller as scientific minds answer these questions through rigorous testing. Science isn't just "this is just what the facts are now accept it" like your bible. It's "here is what we think and here is the plethora of evidence that heavily supports this, but we could still be wrong". While yes, the science world has been filled with the same closed minded arrogance it takes to say you not only know god exists but you know what it is, those people are eventually weeded out and pushed aside from science's progressive trail. I think one thing you will never want to admit to yourself is that theism and religion is science. It is a failed attempt at science. It's somebody observing things and coming up with an answer to things we didn't know. There just isn't any scientific method used to back those claims the same way there is no scientific methods to back the claims of ancient aliens.

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[MERIT]

Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree. Acknowledging other lifeforms that have evolved and figuring out how they relate to us and what their place is in the universe and how they have contributed to it is hardly throwing up one's hands in defeat and relegating it to some indiscriminate category like you are insinuating.


THAT would be a cop-out. So again, we'll just agree to disagree.

The Batlord

Reminds me of when me and my friend as kids would lose at a video game, curse at it, and then apologize and try to placate the video game, as inevitably we would lose even worse after berating the game since now we're mad and making mistakes. It was silly nonsense, but it was still almost second nature to see agency in something clearly inanimate and try to exert some measure of control with rituals. So yes, "it never has felt natural to believe in only natural things", but not because of any deeper truth hidden within the soul of humanity. We're just retarded by now obsolete evolution.

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Lucem Ferre

Acknowledging the likely hood and profound amount of evidence that supports the idea that we can't be alone in the universe is not the same as inserting aliens to fill knowledge gaps about our own history.

Saying you don't know is not a cop out. It's truth. It's the first step to the path of 'well let's find out' where as inserting aliens or gods into it is a cop out that stops you from having to do the work of discovering the truth because you already have an answer.

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[MERIT]

When the evidence that you speak of supports the notion of "aliens" being the ones who filled those gaps, then it actually IS the same thing.


I'm already passed the "I don't know, let's find out" stage, as is anyone who goes forth to posit any ideas about anything, which is what I'm doing. I wasn't born with the idea of advanced being or ET's fitting into our history . . .

Frownland

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Lucem Ferre

Giant mysterious stone balls that we don't understand are not evidence of aliens, you're doing the same thing they do. Make **** up to explain something we don't understand then using the fact that we don't understand this thing as some kind of half assed evidence to support that aliens are behind that something we don't understand. When you think about the 'logic' behind it you realize just how retarded it sounds.

Like, I got this piece of paper and you don't know where it came from. So I tell you that my girl friend Vanessa Hudgens gave it to me. You tell me I need to prove that Vanessa Hudgens gave it to me and is my GF so I say, "If she wasn't my GF then where did this piece of paper come from?" And I can provide photos and videos and documentation of her existence.

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[MERIT]

I never once mentioned a word about stone balls. You did, and then proceeded to continue on this tangent about them which has absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand. You are coming at this like there is no proof of ancient civilizations having contact with advanced races. Look at the writings of the Hindu vedas and the ancient sumerians. Even the Bible. All over the planet, ancient civilizations interacted with advanced beings that came from the skies. And you and I are sitting here arguing over whether it's better to call them "aliens" or "gods," like it's some fucking dick measuring contest and chastising the other for not thinking alike.

Frownland

Makes you wonder why the aliens stopped. What did those ancient bastards do to them?

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