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Old 01-13-2018, 06:02 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Not in my experience dude. That's just laughable.



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So you've seen someone who did not look male or female and it had nothing to do with their fashion sense whatsoever. I find that impossible to believe, but it is a weak argument on my part.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:02 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:05 PM   #53 (permalink)
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For referring to non-binary trans people who prefer a gender-neutral pronoun
OP is right to point out that because of the people Isborn mentions there's a new semantic confusion.

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There are options outside of they/them as well. I know several people who use ze/zer, for example.
^ I've never heard this myself, but if that's a popular solution, why fight it? It's not so different from (after centuries of Mr./ Mrs./Miss only) the less specific term Ms. was introduced. I imagine that ze/zer is mainly for conversational purposes at the moment. My guess is that in medical documents, etc, people are still writing out he/she when the need arises.
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I hate that anyone who is against the they/them pronouns are forced into this cringy skeptic/enlightened centrist position who watches ben shapiro and sarcuck of assad.
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I hate that anyone who is against the they/them pronouns are forced into this cringy skeptic/enlightened centrist position who watches ben shapiro and sarcuck of assad.
You demonstrate a similar lack of understanding and bias dude.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:10 PM   #56 (permalink)
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^ I've never heard this myself, but if that's a popular solution, why fight it? It's not so different from (after centuries of Mr./ Mrs./Miss only) the less specific term Ms. was introduced. I imagine that ze/zer is mainly for conversational purposes at the moment. My guess is that in medical documents, etc, people are still writing out he/she when the need arises.
Yes, it's used as a pronoun, not an identity. Here in California medical documents largely include nonbinary as a gender selection, and soon it will be an available option on id's and birth certificates as well.
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Old 01-13-2018, 06:15 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Yes, it's used as a pronoun, not an identity. Here in California medical documents largely include nonbinary as a gender selection, and soon it will be an available option on id's and birth certificates as well.
K, now I'm kinda interested. Is that meant for people who want to make that change to their own birth certificate later in life, or does it extend to parents deciding that their child will be non-binary?
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Ok. So maybe it is more common then I realized. Don't any of you feel that the words lose their meaning when it's means both singular and plural? Wouldn't it make more sense to slap an s on the end of the word to be able to tell the difference?


I've genuinely never heard of people using they or them singularly. I also just had a conversation with some friends who said the same things I've already outlined in previously.
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I hate that anyone who is against the they/them pronouns are forced into this cringy skeptic/enlightened centrist position who watches ben shapiro and sarcuck of assad.
^ Word. Church. I mean I agree. Any time the language changes, there's an uncomfortable period during which your choice of words reveals something about where you stand: are you an open-minded modernist or a die-hard traditionalist?

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Yes, it's used as a pronoun, not an identity. Here in California medical documents largely include nonbinary as a gender selection, and soon it will be an available option on id's and birth certificates as well.
^ Well that's very inclusive ! Are you saying that ze/zer turns up in their files too?
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