Inheritance

OccultHawk · 04-14-2018, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

It’s the socialism side that doesn’t work with it. Considering socialism requires force and and a violation of the NAP for anyone who doesn’t want to partake in the distribution of their wealth.

I’m sure there are many forms of Libertarianism that don’t necessitate a contradiction but that does.

It’s capitalism that’s impossible to align with libertarianism. Capitalism is predicated on the theft of natural resources by assigning the rights of control to people who have documents recognized by the capitalist power structure. Property is theft.

Socialism is, at least, an attempt to correct the inherent injustice of capitalism. Neither system can be truly libertarian but socialism has its sails set in the direction of freedom whereas capitalism is sailing further into the depths tyranny and oppression.

OccultHawk · 04-14-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

not if society voluntarily rejects private property

Native American tribes lived without ownership of land for example

private property requires force as well, I can not own something I am not carrying on me without the gov putting a gun to everyone else's head

Church

OccultHawk · 04-14-2018, 10:40 AM

The Pueblo Indians lived for at least two centuries in a completely classless and politically non-hierarchical social structure. They didn’t number in the millions but they did number in the thousands.

~~MicShazam~~ · 04-14-2018, 11:32 AM

I'm of the unpopular and very un-American opinion that one person can only own so much money before it becomes unethical. Hoarding billions while others are starving does not fit within my idea of "right".

~~Cuthbert~~ · 04-14-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I'm of the unpopular and very un-American opinion that one person can only own so much money before it becomes unethical. Hoarding billions while others are starving does not fit within my idea of "right".

I agree it's not right.

**Goofle** · 04-14-2018, 09:31 PM

Bread costs as much as it does because of the average income of the everyday regular person and their collective agreement on how much they are willing to pay at that time.

Spread the wealth, raise the bottom and lower the top (in terms of numbers) and guess what? Bread will still cost the same relative to the new average wealth distribution and the new agreed upon price people are willing to pay for it.

OccultHawk · 04-14-2018, 09:36 PM

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agreed upon price

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Bread will still cost the same relative to the new average wealth distribution

You know about concepts like supply and demand and inflation right?

**Goofle** · 04-14-2018, 09:56 PM

Yeah, I could have just said that instead but cheers for simplifying by rambling post. Time to sleep.

Lucem Ferre · 04-14-2018, 11:05 PM

But elph, that guy worked harder for those 6 pieces. Don't be a hater. Those other people deserve to starve.

**Goofle** · 04-15-2018, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

but to explain the part of the equation you're missing, when demand for consumer goods goes up, for example if the average household income increases such that those goods become affordable, supply goes up as well keeping prices relatively even while simultaneously employing more people

That works if it's natural wealth growth or maybe in the short run - the other alternative being price hiking. But essentially all that would happen is that wealth would be transferred back to those corporations who supply the goods people want and we are back to square one.

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People should be able to pass on their fortune however they want.	7	63.64%
There should be some limits to how much someone can inherit.	3	27.27%
Only under special circumstances should someone be allowed to inherit money/property.	1	9.09%
There shouldn't ever be any inheritances.	0	0%
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04-14-2018, 11:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	I'm of the unpopular and very un-American opinion that one person can only own so much money before it becomes unethical. Hoarding billions while others are starving does not fit within my idea of "right".