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Old 05-31-2018, 10:59 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Humour and ethics are two different discussions. I think we can all agree that it's a hilarious video.
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I wouldn't do it, but nah I'm not of the opinion that it's inherently wrong

I put the political implications in a different box from that call
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:11 AM   #83 (permalink)
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their speech is a call to violence

it's only funny because they don't have much political capitol
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I put the political implications in a different box from that call
That's fair.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:12 AM   #85 (permalink)
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I wouldn't do it, but nah I'm not of the opinion that it's inherently wrong

I put the political implications in a different box from that call
Why isn't it wrong? Does it advance dialogue? Does it make them see the error of their ways? Does it not stiffen their resolve? Does it not communicate to them that you are not on a higher moral level than them? You talk about MLK but ultimately ignore what is both a morally superior ideology and a pragmatic method of shaming the other side into silence at the very least and possibly even changing their view point.
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their speech is a call to violence

it's only funny because they don't have much political capitol
"Wow you guys really hate this guy. He just got himself a new fan!"
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:17 AM   #87 (permalink)
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So, how much verbal abuse do you all think someone should take before resorting to violence? Is it ever alright, or at least reasonable, to hit someone who hasn't posed a physical threat to you?

Like, what would someone have to say to get you to lose it?
Strictly speaking, it would never be ok to respond with violence.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:23 AM   #88 (permalink)
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Why isn't it wrong? Does it advance dialogue? Does it make them see the error of their ways? Does it not stiffen their resolve? Does it not communicate to them that you are not on a higher moral level than them?
does the historical use of violence from The Black Panthers put them on the same level as the government that was oppressing them?

even if you can make the argument that the non-violence aspect of Civil Rights was much more effective, does it make the violence immoral?

now the difference is Richard Spencer has little power, sure, is that what makes violence unjustified? Do Nazis have to have a gun to your back before a punch to the face is justified?

it's at least a tough call imo
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Do you think that increasing the amount of support behind Spencer will make it more or less likely that Nazis are going to have the power to put the gun to your back?
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the original Antifa used illegal actions and violence to oppose the Nazis before and after their rise to power

were they justified?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
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