Heavy Metal Causes Violence (lead singer, drum, pop, rap, rock)

jshpik1 · 08-08-2007, 12:39 AM

How do you feel about these statements in relation to heavy metal and hard rock?

In Vancouver, during a 30 minute Beatles performance, 100 people were stomped upon, gouged and assaulted. (Satan’s Music Exposed, L. Hart)

In Melbourne, nearly 1000 were injured at a rock concert. (Satan’s Music Exposed, L. Hart) “Our music is capable of causing emotional instability, disorganized behavior, rebellion and even revolution.” (Beatles, 1960)

Here is what a person who attended a rock concert said, “After an hour or so, even I felt drugged. But 20,000 people, most of them high on marijuana, if nothing stronger, were rocking the whole building, swaying, standing on their seats, arms around each other…the crowd seemed hypnotized in thrall. It was part of a mass frenzy.” (Readers Digest, July 1973, pg 173)

A popular rock singer said this about their music. “Rock’n roll has always been sexual. Rock’n roll has always been violent. It has teeth. It will scratch your face off. That’s why I like it…..if you like having your brains blown out and pushed up against a wall, then its for you.” (Entertainment Tonight, January 9, 1982)

In Rock From the Beginning, a 1969 book by Nik Cohn, Mick Jagger, lead singer for the Rolling Stones, described the heavy emphasis on rhythm in his group’s music, saying, “It was nothing but beat, smashed and crunched and hammered like some amazing stampede. The words were lost and the song was lost. You were only left with the chaos, beautiful anarchy. You drowned in noise. The sound destroyed you, raped you regardless, and you had no defense left.”

sleepy jack · 08-08-2007, 12:43 AM

the Beatles and the Rolling Stones heavy metal lol.

Anyway, rock music still doesn't have shit on the holocaust, crusades, or the KKK.

~~CAPTAIN CAVEMAN~~ · 08-08-2007, 01:07 AM

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In Vancouver, during a 30 minute Beatles performance, 100 people were stomped upon, gouged and assaulted. (Satan’s Music Exposed, L. Hart)

Link a source or I call bull****.

sleepy jack · 08-08-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jshpik1

A popular rock singer said this about their music. “Rock’n roll has always been sexual. Rock’n roll has always been violent. It has teeth. It will scratch your face off. That’s why I like it…..if you like having your brains blown out and pushed up against a wall, then its for you.” (Entertainment Tonight, January 9, 1982)

I'd also like to know who said this, all I could find on it was it was said by a member of a group that has been called "America’s foremost sex-and-violence band", I couldn't find out who they were though. Which says alot

jshpik1 · 08-08-2007, 05:47 AM

Can't provide a link because it was from a book. But the point of the post was not to question the sources, it was to generate discussion on whether or not you believe this to be true.

right-track · 08-08-2007, 11:05 AM

Violent people cause violence and people are naturally violent, given the right circumstances.

Fuck all to do with heavy metal.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-08-2007, 11:07 AM

If this is true then why are the most violent people i've ever met chavs who listen to drum & bass?

Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 · 08-08-2007, 11:38 AM

Heavy Metal doesn't cause violence. It causes suicide. RAP causes violence.

It's just as bland a statement as the whole "Video Games being the cause of violence" argument. People have free will. These things may influence them in some way, but in the end, they make the choice to do what right or wrong.

So instead of dealing with the "reasons" for violence, deal with the people that commit it.

joyboyo53 · 08-08-2007, 01:17 PM

this relates to a quote from high fidelity in a way "did i listen to pop music because i was miserable, or was i miserable because i listened to pop music". what came first the chicken or the egg? is it the people who find that music appealing that are the problem, or the music turns people into violent people.

anyways from what your post said it has nothing to do with hard rock. moreso you wanted to talk about people getting hurt at concerts. you should have mentioned when pearl jam performed at that festival in the 90s and a couple people were killed from the crowd being out of control/mobbing. when i saw rage at coachella i was with my girlfriend so i couldn't get to close (didn't want her to get hurt) but we saw some people come from the way up front that where completely ****ed up, blood was covering their faces and backs... kind of disturbing honestly.

boo boo · 08-08-2007, 02:13 PM

This is an awesome video of Frank Zappas guest appearance on Crossfire in 86, debating music censorship. I think it's relevant. Enjoy.

Youtube - Frank Zappa on Crossfire

EDIT: Take note of the conservative douchebag blaming rock music for incest.

08-08-2007, 12:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
jshpik1 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 14	Heavy Metal Causes Violence How do you feel about these statements in relation to heavy metal and hard rock? In Vancouver, during a 30 minute Beatles performance, 100 people were stomped upon, gouged and assaulted. (Satan’s Music Exposed, L. Hart) In Melbourne, nearly 1000 were injured at a rock concert. (Satan’s Music Exposed, L. Hart) “Our music is capable of causing emotional instability, disorganized behavior, rebellion and even revolution.” (Beatles, 1960) Here is what a person who attended a rock concert said, “After an hour or so, even I felt drugged. But 20,000 people, most of them high on marijuana, if nothing stronger, were rocking the whole building, swaying, standing on their seats, arms around each other…the crowd seemed hypnotized in thrall. It was part of a mass frenzy.” (Readers Digest, July 1973, pg 173) A popular rock singer said this about their music. “Rock’n roll has always been sexual. Rock’n roll has always been violent. It has teeth. It will scratch your face off. That’s why I like it…..if you like having your brains blown out and pushed up against a wall, then its for you.” (Entertainment Tonight, January 9, 1982) In Rock From the Beginning, a 1969 book by Nik Cohn, Mick Jagger, lead singer for the Rolling Stones, described the heavy emphasis on rhythm in his group’s music, saying, “It was nothing but beat, smashed and crunched and hammered like some amazing stampede. The words were lost and the song was lost. You were only left with the chaos, beautiful anarchy. You drowned in noise. The sound destroyed you, raped you regardless, and you had no defense left.” __________________ Metalhead

08-08-2007, 05:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
jshpik1 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 14	Can't provide a link because it was from a book. But the point of the post was not to question the sources, it was to generate discussion on whether or not you believe this to be true. __________________ Metalhead

08-08-2007, 11:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	If this is true then why are the most violent people i've ever met chavs who listen to drum & bass? __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-08-2007, 11:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
Voice_of_the_Soul12,13,01 #1 Schuldinist. Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 420	Heavy Metal doesn't cause violence. It causes suicide. RAP causes violence. It's just as bland a statement as the whole "Video Games being the cause of violence" argument. People have free will. These things may influence them in some way, but in the end, they make the choice to do what right or wrong. So instead of dealing with the "reasons" for violence, deal with the people that commit it. __________________ I don't mean to dwell But I can't help myself When I feel the vibe And taste a memory Of a time in life When years seemed to stand still

08-08-2007, 11:05 AM	#6 (permalink)
right-track Atchin' Akai Join Date: May 2005 Location: Unamerica Posts: 8,723	Violent people cause violence and people are naturally violent, given the right circumstances. Fuck all to do with heavy metal.

08-08-2007, 01:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
joyboyo53 down the rabbit hole Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: the mountain called monkey Posts: 764	this relates to a quote from high fidelity in a way "did i listen to pop music because i was miserable, or was i miserable because i listened to pop music". what came first the chicken or the egg? is it the people who find that music appealing that are the problem, or the music turns people into violent people. anyways from what your post said it has nothing to do with hard rock. moreso you wanted to talk about people getting hurt at concerts. you should have mentioned when pearl jam performed at that festival in the 90s and a couple people were killed from the crowd being out of control/mobbing. when i saw rage at coachella i was with my girlfriend so i couldn't get to close (didn't want her to get hurt) but we saw some people come from the way up front that where completely ****ed up, blood was covering their faces and backs... kind of disturbing honestly.