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View Poll Results: What are the odds that Russia has something on DJT?
80-100% Almost certain 9 39.13%
60-80% Sure does look that way sometimes 4 17.39%
40-60% Still on the fence 0 0%
20-40% Leaning towards no 2 8.70%
0-20% Extremely unlikely 8 34.78%
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Old 07-22-2018, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 07-22-2018, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Even before yesterday's stunning announcement, Trump has spent his entire presidency sticking up for Putin, heaping praise on Putin, refusing to say anything negative about Putin, having 2 hour closed door meeting with Putin and not briefing his top intelligence people,
Funny thing that during the Reagan years the left blasted the Reagan and the Republicans for the Cold War. Now that Trump triumphantly won the 2016 elections - a decisive win over Hillary Rodham Clinton - they desperately want that Cold War back.
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Funny thing that during the Reagan years the left blasted the Reagan and the Republicans for the Cold War. Now that Trump triumphantly won the 2016 elections - a decisive win over Hillary Rodham Clinton - they desperately want that Cold War back.
I don't think getting less votes but winning on the technicality of the electoral college counts as decisive. The majority of Americans don't want him.
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I don't think getting less votes but winning on the technicality of the electoral college counts as decisive. The majority of Americans don't want him.
"The technicality of the electoral college" was brought to bare by our Founding Father as to ascertain the equality of share interest in governance between rural and urban population of this country of ours. Nay, to those who disagreeth.
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"The technicality of the electoral college" was brought to bare by our Founding Father as to ascertain the equality of share interest in governance between rural and urban population of this country of ours. Nay, to those who disagreeth.
Mostly so smaller states would maximize their influence and actually sign off on the damn Constitution. The only reason conservatives support the electoral college is because it disproportionately benefits them. America is not as conservative as elections would have you believe but we still have to deal with backwards conservative nonsense.
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Mostly so smaller states would maximize their influence and actually sign off on the damn Constitution. The only reason conservatives support the electoral college is because it disproportionately benefits them. America is not as conservative as elections would have you believe but we still have to deal with backwards conservative nonsense.
Half of the US population lives in nine states. If it was by population, then it's possible only cities in California, Texas, Florida, and New York would be making the decisions. All those small states, and small town wouldn't have any say. If it swings back and forth between Republican and Democratic every one or two presidential elections, than it must be achieving what it's suppose to do.
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Who would want to live in a country where everything is basically decisively decided by California and N.Y. every election though? Texas is the only "big" red state that's worth anything serious in the electoral college, and even if Florida swung red every election...well, it doesn't turn out well for the red states.

I'm all for a new system if it makes sense. I just don't think the popular vote being everything is a viable alternative to what we have now.
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Yes let's decide policy by landmass and not population. Makes total sense. Montana is ****ing big, yo, who cares if there's only a million people there. Cause looking at a map makes LA and New York City look small and who gives a ****?
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Seriously ask yourself this question: do you live in the United States of America, or in the United Population of America?
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