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View Poll Results: What are the odds that Russia has something on DJT?
80-100% Almost certain 9 39.13%
60-80% Sure does look that way sometimes 4 17.39%
40-60% Still on the fence 0 0%
20-40% Leaning towards no 2 8.70%
0-20% Extremely unlikely 8 34.78%
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Old 07-23-2018, 03:07 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I already explained. Federalism is at least half-dead so all this states rights business is pissing in the wind. The United States is and longer are.


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Old 07-23-2018, 03:39 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Clinton won by almost 3 million votes.

2,868,686 to be exact.

That's a lot of "We, the People".
That's not even 1% of the total population of the US. So don't act like she won by a land slide.

Trump won cause he worked more diligently than Rodham-Clinton did on the campaign trail. While Hillary was hacking green globs into a glass of water, playing the absentee candidate. Trump was out there having rallies and winning votes. Endearing himself to the American People. Making America Great Again!
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Trump was out there having rallies and winning votes. Endearing himself to the American People. Making America Great Again!


You a Trump fan Nea?
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It's actually pretty darn impressive. California and N.Y. were never going to seriously go for a Republican candidate, even if you put a nuclear warhead to their heads. He got states that hadn't voted Republican in years. Practically nobody saw it coming, which is why there was such an uproar to begin with.

Clinton had a shot at winning despite all the email stuff, but Bernie wouldn't have lost Wisconsin.
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It's an American thing. Before the Civil War the states considered themselves mini countries who were all experiments in democracy with the right to their own particular vision (the United States "are" because it was a plural concept) and after that idea was destroyed by the war once it was made clear by the US government that this was a singular country where you couldn't opt out if you didn't like being a part of it anymore, meaning that states were not singular entities banding together for mutual benefit but a part of a whole (the United States "is").

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That's not even 1% of the total population of the US. So don't act like she won by a land slide.
Getting less votes is not decisive. Getting enough votes to have a public mandate is decisive. In no way did Trump do that. He won through electoral math.

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Trump won because he appealed to people's basest instincts rather than their logic. He appealed to nationalism, he appealed to anti-establishment sentiment to a people who felt that their nationalism wasn't being represented, he appealed to the promise of stability in an uncertain political landscape through blunt statements whether or not they made sense, but most importantly he appealed to the authoritarian desire to have a strong leader who projected strength and made his constituency feel like they had someone who would protect their desires (i.e. protect them like a parent).
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It's an American thing. Before the Civil War the states considered themselves mini countries who were all experiments in democracy with the right to their own particular vision (the United States "are" because it was a plural concept) and after that idea was destroyed by the war once it was made clear by the US government that this was a singular country where you couldn't opt out if you didn't like being a part of it anymore, meaning that states were not singular entities banding together for mutual benefit but a part of a whole (the United States "is").


Yeah, okay, thanks. But I think you missed out a "no". It says "The United States is and longer are". Shouldn't that be "no longer are"? I would have kind of understood that. If not, then I'm lost.
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The united states are ****.. Alaska ftw.
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Can we start calling the Civil War CW1 in anticipation for the even more exciting sequel?
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No because then it will remind me of The Vampire Diaries.
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It's actually pretty darn impressive. California and N.Y. were never going to seriously go for a Republican candidate, even if you put a nuclear warhead to their heads. He got states that hadn't voted Republican in years. Practically nobody saw it coming, which is why there was such an uproar to begin with.

Clinton had a shot at winning despite all the email stuff, but Bernie wouldn't have lost Wisconsin.
Very impressive indeed. Trump won states that the media refused to consider swing states, assuming they were in Hillary Rodham-Clinton's pocket. The media had everyone brainwashed that Rodham-Clinton would win it was like "wowie zowie he won?" Unbelievable!

He put so much effort in his campaign. Talking to wonderful people on the campaign trail. Trying to Make America Great Again.
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