MB's Own November Midterm Election

Lisnaholic · 11-06-2018, 05:15 AM

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Times two. 245 children have been permanently traumatized by the ill-planned zero tolerence policy at the border and still the hate-filled rhetoric flows. Also, moving 15, 000 US troops because there are +/- 6,000 refugees, on foot, one thousand miles away is an abuse of Presidential power and a cynical exercise in scare-mongering.

Also well done for pointing out the parallels between Trump's position today and the early stages of the Nazi movement, and for finding that obscure quote from "The New Situation", (whatever that is). The quote shows another parallel with pre-war Germany: ordinary people, probably through lack of imagination, ignore the warning signs and tell themselves, "That extreme conduct could never happen here." We don't know yet if Trump=Hitler, but there are some alarming parallels already.

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Originally Posted by 66Sexy

Let's say Trump puts that caravan of immigrants in a camp, keeps reporters out, and the next information we get about it is from escapees telling horror stories about a lack of clean water, sub-standard food with insects, people crammed in three to a bed in "housing", and large, suspicious mounds of earth that seem to grow as people are "released".

Is someone who found Trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric distasteful but still voted for him because they don't like NAFTA ultimately responsible for a crime against humanity?

^ The voters wouldn't be responsible for the crimes against humanity, imo, but they could be accused of having made a bad choice at the ballot box. As I mentioned a post or two back, a voter shouldn't be held responsible for everything his candidate does once in office. None the less, do you remember tore's sig, "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice"? Maybe your theoretical voter didn't do sufficient research into his candidate, or might've made a mistake about weighing up the NAFTA pros against the xenophobic cons. Also I would say, as per OH's article, the voter may be guilty of nothing more than just a failure to see the warning signs.

Voters don't get prosecuted for crimes against humanity, but they do get vilefied by subsequent generations, who openly wonder, "Why on earth didn't you stop that guy while you still could??"

OccultHawk · 11-06-2018, 05:41 AM

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Also, moving 15, 000 US troops because there are +/- 6,000 refugees, on foot,

If any of those refugees are killed by the US military I’m going to transition my politics to propagande par le fait

rostasi · 11-06-2018, 09:07 AM

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Lisnaholic · 11-06-2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I don’t want to circle around but to me voting would be a degrading form of submission.

^ If that's how you feel you are clearly beyond the reach of my proselytizing; please excuse all my badgering posts in this thread.

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On another note, I got charged like around $600 (I forget now) for NOT having healthcare for three months. Called “shared responsibility”. No argument ever - even if I lived 1000 years will ever convince me charging me for something I didn’t receive retroactively is fair. I lost my job. Went without healthcare because I was THAT broke and then when I ****ing needed my tax returns I didn’t get it and that’s “affordable” care under the Democrats? Don’t even bother trying to justify that ****. The republicans never did me that dirty. That was the craziest justification of theft I ever saw. There’s no way I could ever ever vote for the ****wads that supported kicking me when I was down like that. That **** was nasty.

^ Sorry you got caught by an anomaly like that.

Not the same, but I also got caught in a mid-life financial crisis. I lost my job and was unemployed for six month. Bad enough, but while I had no income I was hit by big income tax demands connected to the days when I was pulling in some decent $$$$. That nearly wrecked me financially.

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^ As always, top quality link from rostasi.

To me, early voting is slightly like opening your presents before Christmas, so today is the day I vote in my own poll, and for all our US members - see you at the polling station, I hope.

blue :wavey: Geddit?

The Batlord · 11-06-2018, 02:08 PM

Don't you vote for Mexican politicians? The impression I get is that it's like Choose-Your-Own Mafia Adventure.

**Frownland** · 11-06-2018, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

anomaly

Far from it, unfortunately.

OccultHawk · 11-06-2018, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Far from it, unfortunately.

Yeah

I was gonna say

WWWP · 11-06-2018, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

To me, early voting is slightly like opening your presents before Christmas, so today is the day I vote in my own poll, and for all our US members - see you at the polling station, I hope

I'm listed as permanent vote-by-mail but I have never voted early, or by mail lol. I always walk it in to my polling place the day of so I get the instant gratification of the "I voted" sticker.

Edit: that said I can never actually wait until Christmas to open anything, but last year I made it until xmas eve lol

OccultHawk · 11-06-2018, 04:28 PM

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how do you guys feel about direct ballot initiatives

The ones in Florida read like Joyce.

Blarobbarg · 11-06-2018, 04:41 PM

Well, I voted. I feel good to meh about the bigger tickets, wary for Minneapolis sheriff, and ecstatic about the school board seats and school funding motions I voted on.

Gonna listen to doom metal for the rest of the night in anticipation of failure. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised and we can tip America from the brink of a full-on fascist nightmare hellscape and go back to having boring political conversations.

View Poll Results: How will/would you vote on Nov 6?
Generic Democratic Candidate	8	47.06%
Generic Republican Candidate	2	11.76%
Other Candidate	2	11.76%
I don't vote in midterms	5	29.41%
Voters: 17. You may not vote on this poll

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Blarobbarg Do good. Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 2,065	Well, I voted. I feel good to meh about the bigger tickets, wary for Minneapolis sheriff, and ecstatic about the school board seats and school funding motions I voted on. Gonna listen to doom metal for the rest of the night in anticipation of failure. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised and we can tip America from the brink of a full-on fascist nightmare hellscape and go back to having boring political conversations.