Opting Out Of Parenthood
 

If a woman gets pregnant and decides that she wants to opt out of being a parent, she can get an abortion.

If a man knocks up a woman and decides that he wants to opt out of being a parent, he gets stuck with 18 years worth of child support. Call it $250 USD/month, that is a total payment of $54,000 USD.

I know that all cases are different, but does anyone else see a problem with this system?

And don't try to light me up, intimating that I'm against people paying their fair share for their kids, because that's not the issue here. I'm talking about equal rights for men and women, as far as parenting goes. And equal responsibilities, as well.

It's in her body, so it's her call.
Men opt out of parenthood by keeping their sauce out of the pot.

So how was putting up the tree with your son?

I definitely think that if men didn’t have to pay child support more women would get abortions and that would be better. Abortions should be free and come with a nice box of steaks. Voluntary sterilization should be rewarded as well for men and women.

I actually do think it’s reasonable for the man to be able to say I want this baby aborted. If he does the state should take over child support if the woman and man agree to be sterilized.

Less people = mo better

Nah. The man's right to have any say in whether the child gets to exist or not starts and ends with where he blows his load. After that = cry moar.

i agree. if you dont want to eat mac n cheese, dont put your spoon in the bowl :)

Merit - "I would never hit a woman. Unless she was acting like a BITCH."

Not prepared to have a kid? Dont have one. Usually people make that decision beforehand. So...deal with it. Life isn't fair sometimes. My older brother abandoned his son and his family for drugs and jail time and he owes a **** ton of money for child support. I recommend not going that route.

I don't do marriage and kids. I just don't. Now if I've got a friend who's got kids and is going through some **** and he or she want me to babysit their kids for a bit and they throw me some dinner for it or something like that, then yeah, I'll watch your kids because being a parent is a full time job of its own....but me myself? I don't do marriage and kids.

I really don't even date or believe in the idea of a romantic love anymore, I've totally obliterated all of that false hope from myself and make it a point to not subscribe to it again. I don't think anybody plans to have kids, at least not unless they're highly religious, young, and inexperienced in life. It's just one of those things that happens and people try to deal with it, similarly to the opposite of having a kid: Death, and losing someone you love.

I don't go to weddings, even for friends, because I'm single, but also because to me they're just multicolored funerals and wakes. Just like I kind of have to bite my tongue when someone tells me they're expecting a kid because I want to say: "I'm sorry..." for the inevitable death of their freedom and the struggle to come, but for some damn reason the expected social response is a trite and confusing: "...Congratulations!" So, I just go with what's expected, because I'm not exactly Mr. Socialite anymore than I am Daddy Warmbucks.

I'm an introverted, misanthropic, artist and hobby academic...so, I don't really see how the idea of marriage and kids in the modern social senses of the acts could possibly end well for me, so I just avoid it like the plague, basically. I also very rarely touch this subject because of how sensitive people get over it these days, and because I don't really fit into a cookie cutter format of responses for it I usually end up like this in my own head on the subject: :shycouch:

If I could get a check for getting a snip then I'd show up to the hospital with a plate of chocolate chip cookies for all the sexy nurses.

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Mood: apathetic

Mood: just walked into a wall lol

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:) im having some man n cheese some too :woot woot:

Well, a hose underneath my kitchen sick exploded. Had to wait around all day for the plumber to put in a new faucet. By the time he was done and I got the mess cleaned up, made dinner, took a shower, put laundry up and my son took a bath and brushed his teeth, it was late, so we decided not to put the tree up. He went back to his mom's today. I'll probably set everything out the night before he comes over next time so that we can put the tree up and decorate it together. Thank you for your genuine interest. I really appreciate it. I'm obviously being sarcastic in response to your trolling. Go choke on a dick.

That's definitely an interesting concept that I've never considered. Very New World Order / Thousand Points Of Light / Illuminati of you LOL. But, the fact is, we CAN support ALL of the people on this planet, we are just mis-managing our resources.

You see, this is the dilemma to which I was referring. A man and a woman get pregnant. If the woman decides to opt out, she can get an abortion. If the man decides to opt out, he gets stuck with a lifetime of monetary enslavement. Even if he terminates his parental rights to the child, he is still on the hook for child support.

Freeze your sperm for when you're ready to be a parent and get a vasectomy. That's probably the best plan that I've heard yet. Good lookin' out homie :beer:
GTFOH. I've never laid a hand on a woman in a bad way in my life, but if a bitch was trying to take my life, you bet your ass she'd catch these hands. If you let political correctness override common sense survival, then you're a dumbass and deserve whatever you get.

Nice job putting words in my mouth. If you're gonna hate, at least have a little self respect and don't half-ass it.

Right. So you don't think he should be alloted the same legal options as the child's mother? If the roles were reversed, she could have aborted it and that would be the end of the discussion. Trust me, I know that what I'm advocating sounds sh!tty, but if we want fair practices under the law and for the law to apply equally to everyone, then we should allot men the same legal right that women have to opt out of parenthood.

Either ban voluntary abortions or give fathers the legal right to opt out. That's the only way to make things fair under the law.

Right now, if a father wants to opt out, the choices are either to force the mother to get an abortion, or a lifetime of monetary payments against his will. Maybe we could save some lives by reducing abortions if we have another option? I guess that putting the child up for adoption is also another way to go.

this thread...ffs

Weirdest overpopulation denial I’ve ever seen.

Merit - "I dream of the day I get attacked by a woman who looks like my emasculating ex-wife, so I can finally fulfill my fantasy of shooting her in the face without getting the chair."

You should work in textiles with how much you spin things.

Don't know why I even bother crafting quotes when the real ones are so much better

Is that from this thread?

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I'm just worried that your current troubles are making you think of a post hoc abortion.

I'm sorry Crystal. But Gerald just isn't ready. Men, restrain her.

*readies coat hanger*

If you're not ready for kids and/or not ready for a woman to demand child support from you and/or not ready to see your baby murdered, then don't have sex. Problem solved.

Btw, Hawk, you can click on the blue and white arrow in a quote to see the original thread where it came from

Some real mgtow shit here

...and Goofle is on the “most missed poster” nominee list...

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My hair's actually like between the bottom of my shoulder blades and the middle of my back in length. I love that meme though, that ****'s funny as Hell every time.

It's a shitshow on Reddit.

Well, you guys turned this discussion about the complexities that arise amongst human reproductive rights, responsibilities, relationships and monetary entanglement . . . into a sh!t show. Bravo. Well done. Let me hear some more about how bad I am, via the things that I didn't say and the abuse of the transitive property.

Dude if she wants to keep it, just go through the motions and then once it's born, you can give the baby a few good shakes when no one's looking. Then you're free to ditch.

There is no such thing as equality when one person has to carry and birth a fetus and the other is just worried there will be monetary consequences to their actions.

Equality is a kick to the belly.

Doesn't a viewpoint like this imply the importance of biology-based legislation? Last time I checked a lot of that directly conflicts with the typical new-wave feminist's brand of social equality.

Edit: mother****er I told myself I wouldn't argue