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Old 04-04-2019, 03:19 PM   #91 (permalink)
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What does that even mean? TBH it sounds like you believe in predetermination too but you're obfuscating the idea in your head so that it becomes too complex for you to be able to deal with to protect your sense of self.



I'm as confident in predetermination as I am that god doesn't exist. Are you this pedantic about your own god belief?
Sounds to me like he's not arguing for or against, just the idea that it's proven.

Again, the god thing is a false analogy. We have much more evidence gathered against that belief while the evidence for or against free will is little to none especially when it's such an abstract concept that's almost incomprehensible.

Edit: Even with the idea of a god. We have evidence that our previous ideas of what a god is to be false, but an omnipotent being with a consciousness far beyond ours has to be something that we can't currently comprehend.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:23 PM   #92 (permalink)
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No. Whatever you choose would be what you always would’ve chosen. There’s no getting around cause and effect.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:23 PM   #93 (permalink)
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evidence against theism?

like what?
Read my edit.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:27 PM   #94 (permalink)
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it still doesn't make sense

you can't really have evidence against God

even if I'd say I'm like 100% certain there isn't one
The lack of evidence proving there is a god.
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No. Whatever you choose would be what you always would’ve chosen. There’s no getting around cause and effect.
Give it up, he's not going to listen to you.
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Old 04-04-2019, 03:33 PM   #96 (permalink)
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that's just not how it works
Kind of, it is. Plus, evolution contradicts at least the Christian idea of god.
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who says god didn't use evolution to create humans
The Bible.

That's why I made the edit, we've proven that previous ideas of what a God is to be false, just not the more basic idea.
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the bible is not literal

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No, I'm fairly sure it was meant to be taken literal.

Other wise you could just say that god was a metaphor so they don't really believe in a god.
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my family is of the "Earth in 6k years" variety

and will sit around and laugh at Darwin like "what dumbass would believe that! I'm not a monkey!"

it's awesome
My step dad thinks homosexuals shouldn't be married, that it's sinful, wrong and that they should especially not raise kids because it's harmful to the development of the child. One day I should tell him how sinful divorce is, how harmful splitting parents up can be to a child and more so proof of how terrible of a parent he is with how every kid he's ever had a hand in raising turned out.

I did send him into an angry silence when I proved that Obama caused our job growth rather than Trump.
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lol at talking to your folks about politics
I try not to, but he's a moron that thinks he needs to speak up.

Really, I think he does it to provoke a reaction.
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