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Old 04-04-2019, 01:20 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You only need to know the concept of homepathy to know it's retarded af.
Same with free will.
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Old 04-04-2019, 01:21 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You only need to know the concept of homepathy to know it's retarded af.
Same with free will.
Determinist hierarchy of evidence:
Anecdotal Evidence<<<Empirical Evidence<<<"That's Retarded"

Are you guys defining free will as absolute or would a limited range of options qualify?
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Old 04-04-2019, 01:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Determinist hierarchy of evidence:
Anecdotal Evidence<<<Empirical Evidence<<<"That's Retarded"

https://scaryreasoner.wordpress.com/...out-exception/

Are you guys defining free will as absolute or would a limited range of options qualify?
No. Free. Will.

Not even the tiniest of option

It’s as stupid as asking if the moon decides a little bit about its orbit
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Old 04-04-2019, 01:29 PM   #24 (permalink)
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No. Free. Will.

Not even the tiniest of option

It’s as stupid as asking if the moon decides a little bit about its orbit
You've yet to make a strong case. You should try repeating it again though, it might work the next time.
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You've yet to make a strong case. You should try repeating it again though, it might work the next time.
The burden of proof is on you God Boy.
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Science has proven it.
Passing it back to you dawg(matist)
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Passing it back to you dawg(matist)
Quit being dishonest. Free will is a concept that must be proven. A deterministic universe is simply a naturalistic one and that should be the default position until evidence is provided to show otherwise. The only reason anyone thinks differently is because humans are so used to assuming that free will exists that they erroneously consider it to be the default position. You're making this WWWWAAAAYYYY more convoluted than it needs to be.
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Quit being dishonest. Free will is a concept that must be proven. A deterministic universe is simply a naturalistic one and that should be the default position until evidence is provided to show otherwise. The only reason anyone thinks differently is because humans are so used to assuming that free will exists that they erroneously consider it to be the default position. You're making this WWWWAAAAYYYY more convoluted than it needs to be.
The point of no return in vetoing self-initiated movements

Predetermination requires as much evidence as free will. I don't think that it's either/or.
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