Coronavirus: COVID-19

Lisnaholic · 08-08-2020, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Washington Post

And that’s assuming you can only get it once.

Thanks for that graphic, OH. Those are difficult figures, both to accept and to deny, but as you say, I can't see the US taking a significantly different route. Their test, contact-trace, isolate system wasn't effective enough when there were only 15 cases, now the genie is so out of the bottle, they'll never catch up.
I suppose an effective vaccine might change the statistics though.

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^ I'm surprised you guys don't cheer for all the deaths considering all the doom and gloom talk about overpopulation I used to see around MB.

Surely some confusion about the difference between (a) reducing the birth rate and (b) having people drop dead? One is to be applauded, the other, not so much.

OccultHawk · 08-08-2020, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

birth rates go down naturally once a country develops that's the joke of overpopulation

it fixes itself

You sound as stupid as DeSantis talking about covid numbers.

The Batlord · 08-08-2020, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it won't happen, but why not have 2 or 3 more NYC in the US? Most the country is fly over, scarcely populated areas literally suck ass to live in

If it's not going to happen then why bring it up? It's like Republicans saying that they'll consider giving money to the poor when pork barrel spending ends. They'll end poverty once corruption is cured essentially. In the mean time we still have overpopulation and poverty issues.

Regardless of the potential solutions to overpopulation we absolutely have issues of overpopulation that aren't being solved. I mean if the world only had 7 million people rather than 7 billion do you think we'd have global warming? Do you think we'd have widespread deforestation? Do you think we'd have pollution? Saying that population and resources are simply being mismanaged and therefore we don't have overpopulation is just a way to duck eugenic talk while avoiding the conversation.

OccultHawk · 08-08-2020, 01:58 PM

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it won't happen, but why not have 2 or 3 more NYC in the US?

Because large cities are environmental nightmares and other species deserve to live too

OccultHawk · 08-08-2020, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

If it's not going to happen then why bring it up? It's like Republicans saying that they'll consider giving money to the poor when pork barrel spending ends. They'll end poverty once corruption is cured essentially. In the mean time we still have overpopulation and poverty issues.

Regardless of the potential solutions to overpopulation we absolutely have issues of overpopulation that aren't being solved. I mean if the world only had 7 million people rather than 7 billion do you think we'd have global warming? Do you think we'd have widespread deforestation? Do you think we'd have pollution? Saying that population and resources are simply being mismanaged and therefore we don't have overpopulation is just a way to duck eugenic talk while avoiding the conversation.

Sorry if it doesn’t fit his political agenda it can’t be true.

https://www.greenpeace.org/internati...ted-by-humans/

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humans and their livestock now comprise about 96% of all mammal biomass on Earth. All other mammals – whales, sea lions, bears, elephants, badgers, shrews, deer, bear, cougars, rats, wolves, and all the rest – are about 4.2%.

If that doesn’t end the conversation... it’s just like climate change deniers, covid is hoax, flat earth - whatever.

The Batlord · 08-08-2020, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

looking at the planet like it's a building with a maximum occupancy is a bit daft

as it is now, I'd just expect that 1 million people to tear down exponentially more trees per person so they can make more PlayStations and ****

you have consider our consumption and the unsustainable way we go about producing

Yeah I'm not a Malthusian and obviously capitalism is the biggest boogieman, but again, if the world had a population of 7 million rather than 7 billion much of capitalism's effects on the natural world wouldn't be nearly the issues they are. The current population of the world is clearly capable of bringing immense devastation on the planet with our consumption and unless you have a plan to stop that tomorrow then overpopulation is in fact a problem. Whether or not restructuring our management of population and resources would solve that problem cold is academic unless there's a realistic solution. I'm sure the next species to go extinct won't much care about why it's going to die today or tomorrow and would be totally happy if the human population were reduced.

OccultHawk · 08-08-2020, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

there's no amount of forced sterilization that would curve capitalism

we move off fossil fuels or we accept catastrophe, talking about overpopulation is chicken ****

“ humans and their livestock now comprise about 96% of all mammal biomass on Earth. All other mammals – whales, sea lions, bears, elephants, badgers, shrews, deer, bear, cougars, rats, wolves, and all the rest – are about 4.2%.”

Lucem Ferre · 08-08-2020, 06:17 PM

OH's tears account for about 96% of the salt water on Earth. Whiny little bitch.

OccultHawk · 08-08-2020, 06:21 PM

Reported

Lucem Ferre · 08-08-2020, 06:23 PM

Report my ding dong, gramps.

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