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Psy-Fi 09-29-2020 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2137337)
Or you kill a few billion people first

Only leave behind completely unambitious lazy ****s so we can collectively stop doing ****.

Slack Lives Matter.

OccultHawk 09-29-2020 05:52 AM

You work you die.

Occult For Prez

OccultHawk 09-29-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2137343)
but comrade, how can we have labor camps with no work

Did I say “we”. I meant “me”.

I’ve pretty much lost this debate guys. White flag.

The Batlord 09-29-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2137308)
I will be honest and say i would defintely prefer a dictatorship as long as it were my kind of dictator... But that's the trouble with dictators.. It's always a massive gamble.

TBH the best idea is the judge system.


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TheBig3 09-29-2020 03:45 PM

2:15 until the showdown. Good luck tonight. And remember, if it doesn't go the way you want, it's only the fate of the Republic.

I've picked up a 12 pack of Corona to help my television screaming, and to support my Mexican brothers.

jwb 09-29-2020 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2137330)
because people so often don't know what it means as a concept

the guiding principle of letting the People rule is virtuous by definition imo

but Democracy doesn't mean exclusively Mob Rule, often what defines a Democracy is its opposition rights

to me it's more a lesser of evils than an inherent virtue. I don't care about everyone having equal say as an ideal. But the alternative of dictatorship just has more potential to go drastically wrong.

I'm fine with representative democracy as a compromise but I don't see the point in weighting the input of certain states over others. I've yet to hear anyone here offer any compelling reason why the electoral college is actually preferable to the popular vote...Big3 just made a vague appeal to mob rule not being ideal but I don't see how mob rule on the state level is somehow preferable.

jwb 09-29-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2137334)
Goddamn people are obsessed with pretending they’re a part of something that could really happen.



That’s a real option?

When you beat off do you only fantasize about people you’ve already ****ed?

Bruh the "everything is equally impossible" angle is very myopic and lazy. You're just inserting a sense of hopelessness to justify not examining how realistic or practical your ideas are. Stop looking for the easy way out, you know better.

OccultHawk 09-29-2020 05:13 PM

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having any interest in any of these conversations is utterly pointless
4sho

The Batlord 09-29-2020 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2137505)
to me it's more a lesser of evils than an inherent virtue. I don't care about everyone having equal say as an ideal. But the alternative of dictatorship just has more potential to go drastically wrong.

I'm fine with representative democracy as a compromise but I don't see the point in weighting the input of certain states over others. I've yet to hear anyone here offer any compelling reason why the electoral college is actually preferable to the popular vote...Big3 just made a vague appeal to mob rule not being ideal but I don't see how mob rule on the state level is somehow preferable.

Isn't it just giving the rural mob an edge over the urban mob? No mobs have been taken out of the equation.

jwb 09-29-2020 05:30 PM

No, it's doing two things.

1) giving an edge to smaller states overall
2) making it so that in all but a few states voting is actually pointless to the overall result. Whether you live in rural Wyoming or Los Angeles, your state is pretty much either solid red or solid blue every year so voting is pointless. Only swing states have any potential to actually change the election results.

Also, what is the rationale behind giving the rural mobs an edge in the first place?


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