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Old 08-23-2020, 03:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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depends on the crime they committed? case by case?

I'm more against Dads and the Castle Doctrine

I remember Chula and OH both having sexual fantasies about some desperate junkie breaking in so they could get (1) murder for free
I don’t give a **** if you’re a junkie or a cop if you kick my door in.

Nea -I definitely think it’s more important to regulate who owns dogs than guns.
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Another pertinent question: Should felons be able to own dogs to protecr themselves?
Hell no! We have to draw the line somewhere.
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hell no! We have to draw the line somewhere.
It’s not felons in particular but the wrong people have too many dogs.
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It’s not felons in particular but the wrong people have too many dogs.
I'd say the real problem is that the wrong people have too many kids.
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Old 08-23-2020, 03:37 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'd say the real problem is that the wrong people have too many kids.
I’d love to see a ten year world-wide no exceptions ban on breeding people.
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Nea -I definitely think it’s more important to regulate who owns dogs than guns.
Puppy mills, or people who don't take care of their pets?
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Puppy mills, or people who don't take care of their pets?
Both.
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Damn was hoping for some pushback. Fail thread. Unless maybe elph??
Well, I'd def push back on the idea that felons should be allowed access to guns, even if it means going against two of my fave mods:-

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No opposition from me either. I'm against gun ownership, but giving felons less civil rights than other people is unethical and just causes more problems in society
My Case: it's not to be vindictive about people who have paid their debt to society, it's about the notion that a person has shown themselves capable of a felony.
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a crime, typically one involving violence, regarded as more serious than a misdemeanor, and usually punishable by imprisonment for more than one year or by death.
Plenty of people are released from prison with almost full rights, but plus some restrictions. I suspect that some aren't allowed passports; someone who constructed a bomb is prob barred from working in the chemicals industry. Pedafiles aren't allowed near schools and have to register address changes, some people have long-term restraining orders, etc, etc.

I'm in favour of giving felons a fair second chance, but losing the right to bear arms is not much of an impedement to leading a normal life imo.
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We're all capable of felonies.

Restricting the rights of felons assigns them to a lifelong second class citizenry, and recidivism is a symptom of our flawed prison system used to blame felons for being "unfixable". The biggest criticism I see against it is part of a larger discussion about how valuable gun rights are.
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