The Second American Civil War Thread

[The Batlord]

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Without wealth redistribution “equality” just means the white middle class joins the disenfranchised.

It’s baffling beyond belief that it’s so hard to vilify the wealth hoarders.

Case in point, people actually hate the people who raided congress more than congress themselves. I mean, sure, hate them both but ffs don’t get your head twisted about who the real murdering fascists are. BECAUSE OF **** THEY'VE REALLY DONE.

Do you know how many people died today because of America’s behavior rubber stamped by both parties in congress? A lot more than ****ing five.

Yes. Congress are the real imperialists. The people who raided congress are the wannabe imperialists just chomping at the bit to take their jobs and do the exact same thing.

It's baffling beyond belief that some people don't see how they all want the same thing and don't care who has to die for them to get it.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

you know I want the wealthy torn apart by dogs in the street

starting with Elon Musk

however I'm not naive enough to think anyone who wants this is my ally

Who cares?

The allies wouldn’t have defeated the axis without Stalin.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Yes. Congress are the real imperialists. The people who raided congress are the wannabe imperialists just chomping at the bit to take their jobs and do the exact same thing.

It's baffling beyond belief that some people don't see how they all want the same thing and don't care who has to die for them to get it.

Wanting to do something and actually having done it are very different to me.

[jwb]

He's right though about allies... Stalin and the US/Uk had nothing in common other than a common enemy. Regardless of who was in control of the USSR, the allies could've easily lost without help from Russia. So that alliance made perfect sense despite the antagonism between them. That's not a what if.. that's what happened.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

he said "without Stalin"

I read that as, if someone else controlled Russia it would have been a default loss

but I mean, the Axis was going to invade Russia either way, so it seems a totally pointless question even given the "what if"

Stalin didn't defeat Hitler, the cruel bitch of a Russian winter did

1) it was Stalin so that’s that
2) not being able to Start Up the Panzers was a disaster for the Nazis but it didn’t end the war

[jwb]

Originally Posted by elphenor

he said "without Stalin"

I read that as, if someone else controlled Russia it would have been a default loss

but I mean, the Axis was going to invade Russia either way, so it seems a totally pointless question even given the "what if"

Stalin didn't defeat Hitler, the cruel bitch of a Russian winter did

I thought the whole point behind his post was sometimes you have allies you don't agree with

But to play devil's advocate on the Stalin thing... Hitler very nearly conquered Russia. There were a few variables that cost him the victory on the eastern front that are directly tied to stalin.

1) he moved the entire western population eastward. Burned crops, blew up bridges/dams.. total scorched earth warfare.
2) the 5 year plan which rapidly industrialized Russia and turned them into a nation wide arms factory.

[OccultHawk]

I thought the whole point behind his post was sometimes you have allies you don't agree with

It was.

[OccultHawk]

Originally Posted by elphenor

I thought you didn't even disagree with Stalin my bad

Yeah I knew why jumped to that conclusion. And I don’t tbh. It’s just my point was he was nasty and (((we))) knew it.

[OccultHawk]

In northwestern Wisconsin, the chairman of the St. Croix County Republican Party was forced to resign Friday after refusing for a week after the siege to remove an online post urging followers to “prepare for war.” The incoming chairwoman of the Michigan GOP and her husband, a state lawmaker, have joined a conservative social media site created after the Capitol riot where the possibility of civil war is a topic.

Phil Reynolds, a member of the GOP central committee in California’s Santa Clara County, appeared to urge on insurrectionists on social media during the Jan. 6 attack, declaring on Facebook: “The war has begun. Citizens take arms! Drumroll please….. Civil War or No Civil War?”

The heightened rhetoric mimics language far-right extremists and white supremacists have used for years, and it follows a year of civil unrest over the killing of George Floyd, a Black man, by a white police officer and its links to systemic racism. Some leftists have used similar language, which Republicans have likened to advocating a new civil war.

The AP

[Psy-Fi]

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