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Old 08-02-2022, 09:52 PM   #441 (permalink)
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Obama was the first president to brew beer in the White House. Andrew Jackson would've been proud.

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Sounds like she's being provocative. And Biden was against it? Has he no power over his ****ing people at all? Can you imagine that happening under Der Trump? Think they'd be able to get away with that? Oh man! I just complimented Mister Orange! GAAAAHHHH!!

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Old 08-02-2022, 10:18 PM   #442 (permalink)
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didn't he literally have a beer with that cop that harassed that black professor who he thought was trying to break into his own home?

CV, you know what you need to do bud
Hey I'm not trying to take away from his cred as a soulless politician.
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Old 08-02-2022, 10:21 PM   #443 (permalink)
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Soulless? The man had Wet Leg on his Summer Spotify playlist.
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Old 08-03-2022, 05:11 AM   #444 (permalink)
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Obama wouldn't have a beer with anyone not famous.
Nah, Obama came to Ireland and had beer in a pub with a bunch of Micks that weren't in the least famous.
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Just a guess, but Biden called on Congress to pass the CHIPS Act (which he's expected to sign next week) in his State of the Union address. He wants to subsidize domestic chip manufacturing. Taiwan currently provides the vast majority of US microchips. Pelosi's trip could be a way to reassure Taiwan that we're not planning on abandoning them in business relations or arms sales, and by Pelosi not backing down after vague Chinese threats, it also bolsters trust in other alliances of the US with foreign countries that involve arms deals and business relations that may be under threat by other large powers. As it stands, to my knowledge, the US is under no obligation to defend Taiwan in the case of a Chinese military takeover, but it's not off the table. It would have to be approved by Congress though.

In short, my understanding of the motives for her trip, geopolitical advantages.
Thanks. That's a really good way to explain it. I (sort of) get it now. Let me just close the window; sounds like some sort of whistling sound outside, like the sort of thing a Chinese missile would...

No seriously; well explained.
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Old 08-03-2022, 05:13 AM   #445 (permalink)
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Nah, Obama came to Ireland and had beer in a pub with a bunch of Micks that weren't in the least famous.
With a camera in tow?
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I just never understand America. No member of the govt here or in the UK or I imagine in Europe could go do something that is against the wishes, orders or without the sanction of the top guy and not get into trouble, yet Pelosi can go against her boss and do what she likes, even if it rattles the sabre? Or is Biden allowing her to do it as a sort of plausible senility, sorry deniability?


First of all, Biden isn't Pelosi's boss. If Biden was the boss, we'd get a lot more stuff accomplished wouldn't have we. And, really, if Trump actually was the boss, the US might not even be here, pathetic as we are at the moment.

Anyway, we have a system where the branches are separated, thus, the Congress, even if it is dominated by the same party, isn't beholden to the President's whims. Maybe it's different with a Parliamentary Government which is by design a one party rule, but here, the Speaker or Senate Leader or even some obscure congressman can do anything he/she wants politically and the President can't do much about it except complain a bit.
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Sort of, he did mention it before being elected and there has been movement on it. I don't remember it being a big part of his campaign promises, but I could be wrong. Here's more on the latest on that, it's all basically refinements and/or additions to Hoover's 1933 "Buy American Act" - there's a lot of caveats and exceptions though.
Thanks for this.

I think we can do more "made in Canada" things as well. I'd use oil as an example, but oil might be a forbidden word here. We could definitely use more manufacturing jobs here. Not everyone can work in an office, right?
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First of all, Biden isn't Pelosi's boss. If Biden was the boss, we'd get a lot more stuff accomplished wouldn't have we. And, really, if Trump actually was the boss, the US might even be here, pathetic as we are at the moment.

Anyway, we have a system where the branches are separated, thus, the Congress, even if it is dominated by the same party, isn't beholden to the President's whims. Maybe it's different with a Parliamentary Government which is by design a one party rule, but here, the Speaker or Senate Leader or even some obscure congressman can do anything he/she wants politically and the President can't do much about it except complain a bit.
This is really interesting. So the Pres has not really any power over Congress? You're a weird, weird country, you know that? Here, the Taoiseach (PM) is lord and master of the party and anyone who steps out of line is in big trouble. I'm pretty sure that's how it is in the UK too, and most if not all of Western Europe.
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Here, the Taoiseach (PM) is lord and master of the party and anyone who steps out of line is in big trouble.
You can say that it's the way here in Canada. A lot has been said and written about the power that has been centralized in the prime minister's office.
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Well, duh.

This is really interesting. So the Pres has not really any power over Congress? You're a weird, weird country, you know that? Here, the Taoiseach (PM) is lord and master of the party and anyone who steps out of line is in big trouble. I'm pretty sure that's how it is in the UK too, and most if not all of Western Europe.
I dont think this is completely true. If a member of Congress from the same party as the President continually snubs the President, said President could support a primary opponent to said member of Congress. It's leverage that would only really work if the President, their administration and their agenda is more popular with the congress member's constituency than the congress member is. On the other side of the coin, and Im not exactly sure of the specifics of this, but a congress member could switch party affiliation giving more power to the other side. Obviously this is really risky for them politically so it doesn't happen often.
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