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View Poll Results: Is it ok to talk to younger people here about music?
Yes of course 5 45.45%
No it's creepy 0 0%
Yes as long as it remains only about music 4 36.36%
Don't care 2 18.18%
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Old 01-26-2023, 05:38 AM   #41 (permalink)
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after watching this I feel like the best way I can say it is I don't doubt Moby Dick is a very poetic telling of catching a whale. Problem is I'm just not that invested in stories about catching whales. It's a bit long winded for that topic. I don't doubt it's good for whatever genre that is but I'm simply not the target audience.

Moby dick and great Gatsby are both books I was assigned in high school and opted to cliff note instead. They might very well be great books for all I know. They just didn't pass the ADHD smell test
Moby Dick is a refutation of transcendentalism. It's an argument that man is equal to nature and god, and it's heavy on the symbolism of the Abrahamic religions.

Here's a great three-part lecture on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRQF9xii9cc&t=311s
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Old 01-26-2023, 08:08 AM   #42 (permalink)
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The thug notes analysis of Moby Dick was hilarious too. Keep floatin' homies.


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Old 01-26-2023, 10:07 AM   #43 (permalink)
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also given when it was written, one interpretation of Moby Dick is that it's about the US reliance on slavery
I haven't heard that one before, interesting. Makes sense when you think about it.

I'm surprised though you and jwb actually had to read Moby Dick in high school? I never did. I read Moby Dick after I graduated college - and not to sound aloof or anything, but I consider myself a pretty strong reader - and yet still I had to direct all of my attention to the novel when reading it - the circuitous nature of the narrative and chapter progressions and the flowery language of Melville made it a real challenge. I can't imagine reading it as a high schooler. If I was assigned Moby Dick as a high schooler, I would've did what jwb did and used sparknotes/cliffnotes - and I probably would still have a hatred for the novel today.
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Old 01-26-2023, 10:39 AM   #44 (permalink)
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I've never read Moby Dick, even though I have two copies of it on my shelves. I'll have to remedy that one day.

I find Fitzgerald's books and stories boring, but he has the most beautiful style and imagery. I gravitate to him because I love poetry and Fitzgerald writes in a very poetic prose style (similar to another favorite of mine, Tennessee Williams).

For example, from Gatsby:

"A breeze blew through the room, blew curtains in at one end and out the other like pale flags, twisting them up toward the frosted wedding-cake of the ceiling, and then rippled over the wine colored rug, making a shadow on it as wind does on the sea. The only completely stationary object in the room was an enormous couch on which two young women were buoyed up as though upon an anchored balloon. They were both in white, and their dresses were rippling and fluttering as if they had just been blown back in after a short flight around the house. I must have stood for a few moments listening to the whip and snap of the curtains and the groan of a picture on the wall. Then there was a boom as Tom Buchanan shut the rear windows and the caught wind died out about the room, and the curtains and the rugs and the two young women ballooned slowly to the floor."
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Old 01-26-2023, 11:15 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I don't see why having conversations with younger people is creepy as long as it's not sexual in nature, there's nothing wrong with sharing your love of music with people of all ages.

Just don't be a creep and you're good.
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Old 01-26-2023, 03:08 PM   #48 (permalink)
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There's nothing to say to a 14 year old unless you're going to try to be some kind of mentor or something. It's actually not at all normal to me for 30 year olds to be friends with high school students. For some reason the internet makes it seem more normal by reducing everyone to text on a screen.
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Great Gatsby is a much faster read both because of its length and its style

these books are almost only comparable in that they're cemented into high school curriculums for all eternity
they're comparable in the sense that I didn't make it past the first few pages of either one.

But that was back in high school. Maybe today I would make it a couple chapters.
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Maybe if different generations talked to each other more there would be more understanding between them, young people are still exploring their interests when it comes to art and if you share a common interest what's wrong with teaching them what you know? You may even learn something from them.

The idea that you shouldn't interact with kids at all is crazy to me and it kinda sounds like a self report, if someone dosen't think they have enough self control to be around minors then yes they should stay away from them and also get help.

Abuse is a serious problem, treating kids like they're ghosts isn't the solution. Just be normal, goddamn.
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