Frownland

Do you think about your lack of religion at all when you see religiously-influenced policy or government action like overturning Roe v Wade? That's more what tst is about beyond the cringey metalheads.

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Dr_Rez

Gotchya my bad, I misunderstood. Regarding your second statement however its a bit of a false equivalence. Someone believing in ghosts most likely isnt going to effect how they treat other human beings, or vote, or their fundamental understanding of the world around them. Religion however strongly effects all of those things. It is responsible for massive amounts of policies/laws/rules/opinions/etc that HUGELY effect peoples lives. Just look to the news today with talk about the trans community or recent abortion rulings...Nearly all because of religion. I would argue being indifferent as an atheist, while not a bad thing is certain not something to be proud of.


You hit the nail on the head. The constant argument told to atheists of "well why cant you just let people believe what they want it doesnt effect you" is morally abhorrent. How does a book or teachings that preach bigotry, anti science/health, and racism not effect everyone? Many religious people and atheists like seem to give religion a pass simply because it is so widespread.

At the end of the day its a belief that has no evidence of being true and that is never a good thing to hold.

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elphenor

I don't think overturning Roe V Wade is actually religiously motivated

I've yet to meet an anti-choice left wing Christian

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elphenor

transphobia is extremely noticable in right wing sectors of the internet which are largely dominated by young atheists

religion is often co-opted by reactionary groups...but bigotry is a lot deeper than that

historically religion has just as easily been entwined with fundamentally good and just beliefs

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Frownland

The american right wing is deeply rooted in protestant ideology despite recent downplaying of that aspect to appeal to islamaphobes/"new atheists" of the Sam Harris vein, don't kid yourself.

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The Batlord

You know atheist reactionaries are annoying as **** but leftists bending over backwards to not be seen as atheist reactionaries because Sargon of Akkad was a thing are just as ****ing moronic.

You can be chill about religion and not pretend there's nothing wrong with it to win a culture war battle that's been stale for years at this point.

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elphenor

I think it's the opposite where the religion derangement syndrome has otherwise reasonable atheists agreeing with Nea as was on full display in the Islam thread

the idea that you can boil down a complex mixture of socio-economic, cultural, political, regional, historical influence to "it's because religion" is exactly what led to Islaphobia being the core ideology of New Atheists

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Frownland

It doesn't make sense to lump in the pointed criticisms of specific religious influences in this country with those who use atheism to shroud their racism either.

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Dr_Rez

Yea I call bull**** on this. Do you any evidence of Atheists actually being a significant amount of the anti trans anything?

But since you brought it up atheist groups like Atheist Community of Austin which has the largest Atheist podcast/radio show (longest running too) even has a show run by trans people to debate and educate callers. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZZx...WfUifXheSnEmEE) The entire anti trans philosophy comes from religious texts lol


You need to get off the internet and experience real life once in a while.

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The Batlord

You need to get Sam Harris' dick out your mouth.

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