By the way, which one's Pink?-Pink Floyd reviewed (house, album)

Piss Me Off · 08-05-2008, 01:55 PM

Roger Waters - Ron Geesin -- Music from the body : Music > Rock - Mininova

There's one, seeded just enough hopefully.

4ZZZ · 09-09-2008, 07:40 AM

Thanks for the time and effort put into these reviews. They made wonderful reading. I am a long time fan of Pink Floyd and purchased Dark Side Of The Moon on release as a 13 year old

. Time does not stand still sadly.

I have most Floyd albums, Barrett's 2 solo efforts and one apiece from Waters and Gilmour. I am going to go against the tide here but I consider The Wall a masterpiece. There is something about it's grand theater that attracts me. Sure some can argue as to some songs being weak but IMO the actual flow of the album makes those songs part of the whole as apposed to them being individual sound bites.

I can be a bit put of by mega selling superstars at times as I think that they can get away with inferior work but I have never generally thought that of Pink Floyd. Pipers At The Gates Of Dawn , Dark Side of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall all for me are superbly strong from the start to the finish. Even the 2nd tier albums such as Meddle, Ummagumma and say Saucerful Of Secrets have very good highs. The review of The Final Cut was intriguing and I am tempted to grab it out now and play it for the first time in who knows how long. It was the first time that I had been disappointed with a Pink Floyd album. I recall thinking it soulless but after your review I am wondering if my love of The Wall may have tainted my view of The Final Cut.

As an aside I only ever caught them once in concert in 1988 at Brisbane Entertainment Centre. A cold venue that I despise. I remember being disappointed at the time but suspect that I was on my own on that one. Flying pigs seemed enjoyable to the vast majority of the audience.

**Janszoon** · 09-12-2008, 02:58 PM

I just finally read this series of reviews. Great job Jackhammer! We definitely have some differences of opinion on a couple Pink Floyd albums but I really enjoyed your reviews. One small thing I wanted to point out though: You mentioned in both you Final Cut and The Wall reviews that the lyrical content concerned Waters' grandfather dying in WWI. I'm not sure if his grandfather died in that war or not but the lyrics on these two albums are about his father dying in WWII.

jackhammer · 09-19-2008, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I just finally read this series of reviews. Great job Jackhammer! We definitely have some differences of opinion on a couple Pink Floyd albums but I really enjoyed your reviews. One small thing I wanted to point out though: You mentioned in both you Final Cut and The Wall reviews that the lyrical content concerned Waters' grandfather dying in WWI. I'm not sure if his grandfather died in that war or not but the lyrics on these two albums are about his father dying in WWII.

I have since found out that 'The Final Cut' is more of a rant about 'Thatcherite' Britain than his fathers (bonus point to ya) death. So we were both wrong

**Janszoon** · 09-20-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

I have since found out that 'The Final Cut' is more of a rant about 'Thatcherite' Britain than his fathers (bonus point to ya) death. So we were both wrong

True, but he does tie a lot of it in to his father's death. For example the song "The Fletcher Memorial Home" is a reference to his father's name, Eric Fletcher Waters. And the album as a whole was apparently originally supposed to be the soundtrack to the movie The Wall, which of course had a lot to do with Waters' father.

jackhammer · 09-15-2008, 01:05 PM

After a long period it is quite apt to get some positive posts especially considering Richard Wright's sad demise today.

Zarko · 09-17-2008, 03:48 AM

Top reviews jackhammer... I must admit early on Floyd for me seemed to be one of those bands that, whilst musically solid, with various great songs on each album, but never just had me at a point where I simply thought 'Wow'... I'm a bit of an oddball in that way, given that in one context something will explode my mind, yet in another similar moment would make me say 'meh'.

The closest I get to the wow feeling is the first 3 minutes of 'Hey You'... Numb is exquisite for Gilmour alone...

Dark Side has never done much for me (Blasphemy I hear?) :p Just never captured me... Us and Them is a must-listen but thats about it personally...

Their most complete album for me was Wish You Were Here... The Tribute... Welcome... Cigar... WYWH... This album made me say 'Wow' and is the only full Floyd album to do so for me... The others did grow on me (Particularly Animals) but nothing peaked WYWH...

And sad news about Wright... Often times, Floyd had the best melodic background music that actually helped the rest of the songs A LOT... Sad times indeed.

lucifer_sam · 10-12-2008, 11:03 PM

Waters could have written The Final Cut about a button he found in his piggy bank and it would have been infinitely more interesting than what he wrote in the first place. I don't think it really matters what it was about; it was just...bad.

SubPop · 10-14-2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Waters could have written The Final Cut about a button he found in his piggy bank and it would have been infinitely more interesting than what he wrote in the first place. I don't think it really matters what it was about; it was just...bad.

No, it is a great album, one of the most emotional and powerful floyd albums.

Fletch · 02-12-2009, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam

Waters could have written The Final Cut about a button he found in his piggy bank and it would have been infinitely more interesting than what he wrote in the first place. I don't think it really matters what it was about; it was just...bad.

Ha ha! I`ve never heard The Final Cut, but this comment just emphasis (to me) how important good music and songwriting is, compared to what the artist may have intended.

I love The Wall, because the music is VERY good, in spite of Dave Gilmours comments on the album. Obviously Roger wasn`t quite up to scratch with the next one.

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4ZZZ Forever young Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Brisbane Posts: 608	Thanks for the time and effort put into these reviews. They made wonderful reading. I am a long time fan of Pink Floyd and purchased Dark Side Of The Moon on release as a 13 year old. Time does not stand still sadly. I have most Floyd albums, Barrett's 2 solo efforts and one apiece from Waters and Gilmour. I am going to go against the tide here but I consider The Wall a masterpiece. There is something about it's grand theater that attracts me. Sure some can argue as to some songs being weak but IMO the actual flow of the album makes those songs part of the whole as apposed to them being individual sound bites. I can be a bit put of by mega selling superstars at times as I think that they can get away with inferior work but I have never generally thought that of Pink Floyd. Pipers At The Gates Of Dawn , Dark Side of The Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals and The Wall all for me are superbly strong from the start to the finish. Even the 2nd tier albums such as Meddle, Ummagumma and say Saucerful Of Secrets have very good highs. The review of The Final Cut was intriguing and I am tempted to grab it out now and play it for the first time in who knows how long. It was the first time that I had been disappointed with a Pink Floyd album. I recall thinking it soulless but after your review I am wondering if my love of The Wall may have tainted my view of The Final Cut. As an aside I only ever caught them once in concert in 1988 at Brisbane Entertainment Centre. A cold venue that I despise. I remember being disappointed at the time but suspect that I was on my own on that one. Flying pigs seemed enjoyable to the vast majority of the audience.

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lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	Waters could have written The Final Cut about a button he found in his piggy bank and it would have been infinitely more interesting than what he wrote in the first place. I don't think it really matters what it was about; it was just...bad. __________________ first.am

09-12-2008, 02:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Janszoon Mate, Spawn & Die Join Date: May 2007 Location: The Rapping Community Posts: 24,593	I just finally read this series of reviews. Great job Jackhammer! We definitely have some differences of opinion on a couple Pink Floyd albums but I really enjoyed your reviews. One small thing I wanted to point out though: You mentioned in both you Final Cut and The Wall reviews that the lyrical content concerned Waters' grandfather dying in WWI. I'm not sure if his grandfather died in that war or not but the lyrics on these two albums are about his father dying in WWII.

09-17-2008, 03:48 AM	#7 (permalink)
Zarko Barely Disheveled Zombie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 1,196	Top reviews jackhammer... I must admit early on Floyd for me seemed to be one of those bands that, whilst musically solid, with various great songs on each album, but never just had me at a point where I simply thought 'Wow'... I'm a bit of an oddball in that way, given that in one context something will explode my mind, yet in another similar moment would make me say 'meh'. The closest I get to the wow feeling is the first 3 minutes of 'Hey You'... Numb is exquisite for Gilmour alone... Dark Side has never done much for me (Blasphemy I hear?) :p Just never captured me... Us and Them is a must-listen but thats about it personally... Their most complete album for me was Wish You Were Here... The Tribute... Welcome... Cigar... WYWH... This album made me say 'Wow' and is the only full Floyd album to do so for me... The others did grow on me (Particularly Animals) but nothing peaked WYWH... And sad news about Wright... Often times, Floyd had the best melodic background music that actually helped the rest of the songs A LOT... Sad times indeed.