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Key 11-30-2014 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo_ (Post 1515857)
Dude, Levi's are pretty standard.

That's not what your mother said last night.

Machine 11-30-2014 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1515858)
That's not what your mother said last night.

Need some ointment for that burn!

Exo 11-30-2014 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1515858)
That's not what your mother said last night.

I'll make sure to mention this to your girlfriend tonight.

Key 11-30-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo_ (Post 1515863)
I'll make sure to mention this to your girlfriend tonight.

Jokes on you, I killed her this morning.

ladyislingering 11-30-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1515865)
Jokes on you, I killed her this morning.

posting from the grave at the moment.

hair still looks good for a corpse.

feels a bit hot down here.

Exo 11-30-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1515866)
posting from the grave at the moment.

hair still looks good for a corpse.

feels a bit hot down here.

You sure you're not in Mexico?

Trollheart 11-30-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1515855)
I know what you mean. In one hand, I think it's functionally *easier* to live life that way. Certainly more harmonious. Human beings tend to not take criticism well. It invariably strikes at the ego of a person even when meant constructively, and relationships strain. And more to your point, it's easier to live as a human being that does not have negativity in his or her life, even if it is aimed toward others, because it's a burden. But on the other hand, where there are those that cannot help but to have criticism of others, those of us that have not learned how to ignore such a thing, be it personality flaws or just pure humanity, I think it's even more destructive to hold it in.
I think I've demonstrated that quite well yesterday.

I'm trying to be better about it. I always hold things in. A lot of things get to me and I want to be better at it, but it's a matter of changing the way I think versus holding my tongue. Until such a time where I'm truly only able to see positive things in others, which I'm not sure is possible, the only way I can operate is by adopting a policy of honesty.

But I could probably work on my tact. ;)

I think it comes mostly from the experience with my sis. There are days I'd love to just vent, but hell, it ain't her fault and you just learn to keep these things in. Or rather, not quite. What you learn to do, what I learned to do anyway, is think before opening my big gob. Which is not to say we don't have blazing rows --- I'm no saint and she's no angel. But I would never want to use the "I gave up my life to look after you!" line in an argument (unwinnable at that point). While all of this has little to do with negativity per se, I think it does force you to be more tolerant. Which is not to say I haven't kicked the garden shed door or nearly broken my own bedroom door slamming it (and once, destroyed the light switch by angrily punching it out when she had called me for the third time at 4am) but you do tend to get a slightly more zen view on things. Most of the time.
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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1515866)
posting from the grave at the moment.

hair still looks good for a corpse.

feels a bit hot down here.

Finally got to meet Marc, eh? ;)

Freebase Dali 11-30-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1515871)
I think it comes mostly from the experience with my sis. There are days I'd love to just vent, but hell, it ain't her fault and you just learn to keep these things in. Or rather, not quite. What you learn to do, what I learned to do anyway, is think before opening my big gob. Which is not to say we don't have blazing rows --- I'm no saint and she's no angel. But I would never want to use the "I gave up my life to look after you!" line in an argument (unwinnable at that point). While all of this has little to do with negativity per se, I think it does force you to be more tolerant. Which is not to say I haven't kicked the garden shed door or nearly broken my own bedroom door slamming it (and once, destroyed the light switch by angrily punching it out when she had called me for the third time at 4am) but you do tend to get a slightly more zen view on things. Most of the time.

I think the main thing with the vanilla comment for me really comes from a "trying to be" constructive place because I really think she uses so much makeup that it's detracting from her appearance and really just looks bad, but at the same time, I do understand that I don't have any business trying to act like some objective judge.

On the other hand, I wish someone had been critical of a lot of things I used to do before I learned how awful they were. And I think this might be one of those scenarios, so I do appreciate it. Thank you.

ladyislingering 11-30-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo_ (Post 1515869)
You sure you're not in Mexico?

I thought of that for a while, but I haven't seen any tacos or sombreros.

Could've sworn I'd seen Ted Bundy, though.

DwnWthVwls 11-30-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo_ (Post 1515857)
Dude, Levi's are pretty standard.

Do you get the lady kind like Trollheart?

Exo is a sassy bitch. :beer:

ladyislingering 11-30-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1515871)
Finally got to meet Marc, eh? ;)

I don't think he's here. :(

Pet_Sounds 11-30-2014 04:10 PM

TBH I kind of regret bumping this thread.

Neapolitan 11-30-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds (Post 1515911)
TBH I kind of regret bumping this thread.

It's not your fault, you used it properly. And you said positive things about the other members.

Key 11-30-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1515943)
And you said positive things about the other members.

I'm confused as to why people think this thread's only use is for saying positive things about members. Are people just afraid to speak their mind about someone they don't like?

Freebase Dali 11-30-2014 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1515943)
It's not your fault, you used it properly. And you said positive things about the other members.

I just had to comment on this because I do take at least a little bit of annoyance at the fact that you somehow thing a thread I created for a specific purpose is ultimately something you choose it to be. However, I will concede that the importance of any public forum and its contents are more relevant to the mass of participants, ultimately, so if you feel this should be a thread where we solely congratulate others, then let me know what you'd prefer the title to be.

Freebase Dali 11-30-2014 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1515944)
I'm confused as to why people think this thread's only use is for saying positive things about members. Are people just afraid to speak their mind about someone they don't like?

You, Sir, have hit the nail on the head. And, as the thread's creator, I back that up with personal evidence.

Key 11-30-2014 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1515946)
You, Sir, have hit the nail on the head. And, as the thread's creator, I back that up with personal evidence.

I just find it silly that some people can't take criticism on a forum. Especially since life is full of criticism, with family and at work. If people can't just brush it off when it comes from people that we may never meet, I can't imagine what their life is like when it comes from people they see every day. Probably pretty lonely and miserable.

Freebase Dali 11-30-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1515948)
I just find it silly that some people can't take criticism on a forum. Especially since life is full of criticism, with family and at work. If people can't just brush it off when it comes from people that we may never meet, I can't imagine what their life is like when it comes from people they see every day. Probably pretty lonely and miserable.

I just feel like criticism is a good thing. How else can you evaluate yourself without opinions contrary to your set beliefs? Sure, a person should be sure and confident of themselves, but it doesn't mean being lied to all your life believing whatever fantasy you believe. (I use "you" generally)

There can probably be an adjustment of approach, especially on my part, however, we live in a world of people other than ourselves. It makes sense and is functional to understand their perspectives so that we get a clue about our own.

I say all that to say that I agree with you.

ladyislingering 11-30-2014 05:51 PM

I think we can all agree that worse things have been said to us by people we actually care about, and while I don't agree with some of the overly rude things said to some people, it really is just the internet. I think it's a pretentious and egotistical attitude for a man to think that strange women value what they think of their appearance at all, to the point where they need to share their opinion (as if it holds any weight) but the internet is a better place to be a dick than pulling that shit on someone you actually know.

I have something nice to contribute to the recent barrage of bull**** in this thread, though.

It was nice plugging with ultra-wasted Goofle and company last night - the man has good taste and I hope he wasn't too sick when the booze wore off.

Freebase Dali 11-30-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1515952)
I think we can all agree that worse things have been said to us by people we actually care about, and while I don't agree with some of the overly rude things said to some people, it really is just the internet. I think it's a pretentious and egotistical attitude for a man to think that strange women value what they think of their appearance at all, to the point where they need to share their opinion (as if it holds any weight) but the internet is a better place to be a dick than pulling that shit on someone you actually know.

Yet another one that does not understand that this thread was created for honesty, not circle-jerking. I apologize for your misunderstanding, however, if you feel that the only honesty this thread should have is the kind that makes people feel better about themselves, then let's talk about that. Otherwise, this isn't the entire internet and there are many other threads for that to happen however intrinsically. If you've a problem with the thread's intent, which, guess what... is about honesty, then do let me know how I can alter it so that it's not about honesty and is more about making people feel nice.

We can all be adults here. From me, to you. I can work on my tact, and you can start understanding why this thread is here in the first place, or maybe figure out that if you don't take criticism constructively, then you're not trying to learn anything about yourself.

Let's both give it a go, eh?

Key 11-30-2014 06:01 PM

Freebase Dali: Could really due with growing his hair out and could definitely do with not using as much makeup as he does. Makes him look like a tranny.

ladyislingering 11-30-2014 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1515959)
Yet another one that does not understand that this thread was created for honesty, not circle-jerking.

Ready to cave now, because you've got a point. You could have been less of a dick, but you have a point.

I don't care for you. But that's alright.

John Wilkes Booth 11-30-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1515952)
I think we can all agree that worse things have been said to us by people we actually care about, and while I don't agree with some of the overly rude things said to some people, it really is just the internet. I think it's a pretentious and egotistical attitude for a man to think that strange women value what they think of their appearance at all, to the point where they need to share their opinion (as if it holds any weight) but the internet is a better place to be a dick than pulling that shit on someone you actually know.

it seems like it must hold some weight. i can't imagine why we would assume it holds no weight when really what the opposite sex thinks of your appearance

tbh i tend to think women in general whine too much about being objectified when really they do it to themselves by buying into it and letting it get to them.

for instance this woman at work got mad at me cause i called her a whore but really i wasn't being malicious about it she just didn't like the way i worded it so bluntly. she was being a whore and talking to me and this other dude about her sex life and how she had 2 boyfriends even when she was in kindergarten and i said "damn, so you've been a whore since day one basically." and she got really annoyed and was like you shouldn't use that word since it's a double standard etc and i was like yea but the difference is if you called us a whore we wouldn't take any offense to it. it's like you want to be treated like men but you don't know how to act like men. i will probably catch heat for this comment but oh well

ladyislingering 11-30-2014 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1515963)
it seems like it must hold some weight. i can't imagine why we would assume it holds no weight when really what the opposite sex thinks of your appearance

I guess a better way of putting it would be "the secure woman doesn't care what the opposite sex thinks of her" but now that I think of it, this issue isn't just a heteronormative concept, so I guess, mainly, what I'm getting at is that if the person who's criticizing you isn't your significant other, who gives a fuck what they think?

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for instance this woman at work got mad at me cause i called her a whore but really i wasn't being malicious about it she just didn't like the way i worded it so bluntly. she was being a whore and talking to me and this other dude about her sex life and how she had 2 boyfriends even when she was in kindergarten and i said "damn, so you've been a whore since day one basically."
To be fair, she probably smells like a fish cannery. :laughing:

Goofle 11-30-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1515952)
It was nice plugging with ultra-wasted Goofle and company last night - the man has good taste and I hope he wasn't too sick when the booze wore off.

I was so so so so drunk last night. I also lost my phone. I also threw up out of my window. I was still drunk when I woke up so the hangover hit me at like 5pm. So drunk.

Thanks though, I remember the tunes being good :)

Key 11-30-2014 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1515970)

Thanks though, I remember the tunes being good :)

Most tunes are good when you're drunk.

ladyislingering 11-30-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1515970)
I was so so so so drunk last night. I also lost my phone. I also threw up out of my window. I was still drunk when I woke up so the hangover hit me at like 5pm. So drunk.

Thanks though, I remember the tunes being good :)

You've got to be careful with yourself! If you know you're going to drink a lot, make sure you get a ton of fluids in your system so you don't get dehydrated (that's where the headache comes from). Have a glass of water between substantial amounts of alcohol, eat a little, try to take care of yourself so you can enjoy the drunkenness without having to pay for it later.

The motown remixes were really cool and it was a pleasure queuing up a ton of adorable 60s girls. :)

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1515972)
Most tunes are good when you're drunk.

No matter how drunk I get, shit is still shit. :laughing: Liquor only makes the good tunes sound better.

Scarlett O'Hara 11-30-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1515779)
Oh wow, you guys still freaking out about this?

Let me preface this, first of all, with an apology. I didn't set out to offend everyone. I set out to say what I've always wanted to say for a very long time. Mainly the Vanilla thing. The rest was filler.

I don't know if it's this place in particular, or just people in general, but there are people here that will only let others get away with the truth if it hurts someone they don't care about. In all my time here, I've seen this hypocritical behavior many times and the truth of the matter is that, had I targeted people who were not in the masses' sphere of relevance, my post would probably not have ruffled too many feathers. With the exception of Trollheart's, because I believe he's a stand-up guy that would fight for anyone no matter how popular they are here.

With that said, I don't mind being made a villain to highlight a problem. So if the problem is the nature of the thread, we can talk about that. If the issue is tact, we can certainly talk about that too. However, if we decide we need to censor ourselves in this thread to preserve each other's fragile egos, then perhaps this thread is pointless.

I leave it to you.

How is my make up caked on? I wear a nude powder on my skin. How is my make up even relevant to "spilling your guts" about someone? It's supposed to be about what you think of them on here not what they look like. I don't see any guys getting criticised for their looks.

Key 11-30-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1515974)
I don't see any guys getting criticised for their looks.

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1515960)
Freebase Dali: Could really due with growing his hair out and could definitely do with not using as much makeup as he does. Makes him look like a tranny.

*cough*

ladyislingering 11-30-2014 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1515974)
How is my make up caked on?

He's a straight man. He doesn't know **** about make-up. :laughing:

RoxyRollah 11-30-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1515970)
I was so so so so drunk last night. I also lost my phone. I also threw up out of my window. I was still drunk when I woke up so the hangover hit me at like 5pm. So drunk.

Thanks though, I remember the tunes being good :)

say it again?! You threw yer phone out the window?

Scarlett O'Hara 11-30-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1515877)
I think the main thing with the vanilla comment for me really comes from a "trying to be" constructive place because I really think she uses so much makeup that it's detracting from her appearance and really just looks bad, but at the same time, I do understand that I don't have any business trying to act like some objective judge.

On the other hand, I wish someone had been critical of a lot of things I used to do before I learned how awful they were. And I think this might be one of those scenarios, so I do appreciate it. Thank you.

But why should I care about what you think? Because on one hand you think fragile egos get crushed if I care what you think and on the other you think I should care so that I stop looking like a fugly tranny?

I've never had any issues with my make up, I never stop getting attention or boyfriends. I'm not going to listen to one random guy with his own inflated ego tell me how I should look. If I make any changes to myself, it's for me. I stand by my annoyance at you using the word tranny as a negative thing. How is calling someone a tranny constructive criticism? Did you really expect me to just go "ohhh Freebase, I can't believe no one told me?".

Neapolitan 11-30-2014 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1515945)
I just had to comment on this because I do take at least a little bit of annoyance at the fact that you somehow thing a thread I created for a specific purpose is ultimately something you choose it to be. However, I will concede that the importance of any public forum and its contents are more relevant to the mass of participants, ultimately, so if you feel this should be a thread where we solely congratulate others, then let me know what you'd prefer the title to be.

:confused: I wasn't trying to Bogart this thread from you. And I didn't mean to sound like that this thread sole purpose should be for the positive affirmations of the member we encounter on MusicBanter. Still, saying positive things is the peragitive for the member making a SYG post. If two members in this thread get into a scuffle and one leaves, I don't blame you as the OP for what happen. It is along those same lines I said what I said to Pet_Sounds. I felt Pet_Sounds should not feel like he has to bear any guilt of what transpired because he bumped a thread. He isn't responsible for other people's actions or what they say.

RoxyRollah 11-30-2014 06:32 PM

Shut up! For a ****in minute and let Clancy answer me!

WHY DID YOU THROW YOUR PHONE OUT THE GODDAMN WINDOW.

Goofle 11-30-2014 06:50 PM

Read the sentences again. :)

RoxyRollah 11-30-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1516008)
Read the sentences again. :)

oooh.... that was a legitimate I smoked too much error...oooo right.

Neapolitan 11-30-2014 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1515994)
Shut up! For a ****in minute and let Clancy answer me!

WHY DID YOU THROW YOUR PHONE OUT THE GODDAMN WINDOW.

He wanted to make a long distance phone call???:confused:

GuD 11-30-2014 07:02 PM

If he didn't already it would be nice to see FD genuinely apologize for using the term "tranny" as a derogatory comment about someone. Whatever your intentions, that's not okay.

Freebase Dali 11-30-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1515974)
How is my make up caked on? I wear a nude powder on my skin. How is my make up even relevant to "spilling your guts" about someone? It's supposed to be about what you think of them on here not what they look like. I don't see any guys getting criticised for their looks.

Welp. To add to the "too much makup opinion" I have of you, I'll go ahead and add to the "doesn't understand things real well" opinion that I haven't, until now, released.

You post pictures, right? (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've seen them with my own eyes, but do let me know if I've imagined the fact that you've posted pictures of your face).

Well. Based on those pictures, it is my opinion that you use far too much makeup. I'm not saying you should use less. In fact, you could bury your head in it for all I care. But, as a person to another, you'd really bring out your beauty by hiding it less.

As I've said, you're a great person. But I'm not going to sit here and lie to you about what I think. I think you deserve at least a little more than that.

Freebase Dali 11-30-2014 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1515962)
Ready to cave now, because you've got a point. You could have been less of a dick, but you have a point.

I don't care for you. But that's alright.

I think you are perfectly relevant here. So. For my own sake and the future of others' ego, let's define "dick".


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