Check this out.
"Talking about rape and cutting bodies up doesn't interest me anymore."
-Tyler

Tyler, the Creator Says His New Album Is Called Wolf and Will Be Out in May | News | Pitchfork

Sounds interesting, hopefully he doesn't just end up doing a crap Album like Goblin.

Interesting. This could turn out really good, or really bad. Good to see him taking risks and not going by the same formula.

The fact that Johnny Knoxville is producing Tyler the Creator's soon-to-be adult swim jackass knockoff has me seriously losing interest in him. I know it has nothing to do with his/odd futures music, but the group seems to be really self absorbed, and more interested in proven themselves as recycled "in your face" pranksters then a collective of musical talent.

I see these guys seriously watering down their image, and becoming a one trick pony. The teen audience that loves Odd Future are gonna be adults relatively soon, and i don't see the Odd Future collective maturing, but fizzling out almost as fast as they came up.


I know if you go like 20 pages back this is the exact opposite of what i was saying then, but honestly their new music is not a positive improvement over the mixtapes from 2 years ago which is concerning to me.

Johnny Knoxville has hipster glasses and was put on by Spike Jonez, so i'm fine with the man.

I don't think they're prolific enough yet to judge their catalogue fully. They've been busy with shows and whathaveyou, and the music they did put out in a relatively short span isn't going to be that largely diverse (the most recent release being from Domo, of course; Mike G still has yet to release another album, as well as Mellohype). Tyler is obviously maturing and will hopefully let his fairly cultured taste and creative mind progress with him.

This was bound to happen, of course, among fans (referring to your fizzling comment, sparkplug); the hype was huge, the expectations as well, so the somewhat stagnant state of OF right now is causing a loss in interest. I sure haven't checked their news in awhile, but i still care for the artists.

I don't know bro, Wu tang hasn't been able to top 36 chambers and they've been maturing as artists for decades.

Too often is the debut release the strongest. I think most of their acclaim stems from the fact that they are such a sharp contrast to all the other popular hip hop, but when judged on its own it's already gotten stale to me.

Once people get tire of Odd Futures charisma i think they'll fade. You have to be an adept musician to mature and cross genres, which is why all those hardcore 80's punk bands never did **** after their stint(black flag).

I'm playing devils advocate, but im tired of seeing everybody dressing like skater bois!!!!

Imagine if a hardcore introvert, ugly, pale little swedish kid made this music first, it would cease to be good or new or anything.

Well, i think the tolerant underground fans wouldn't look him over; he might be a force there. But i don't think a pale swedish kid would have the psychological disposition to make this music (all the things Tyler raps about, pretty much); the basis might be there, but the subtleties wouldn't. White kids usually go straight for the eminem jugular anyway.

You make a good point about Wu Tang, but by Tyler's taste in music alone you can see that, with some practice and dedication, he could pull off almost anything. Wu Tang are Hip Hop for sure, but Odd Future is inspired by a much broader field. Think of RZA, after all, who has gone on to do movie soundtracks for well respected filmmakers like Quentin Tarentino and Jim Jarmusch. Tyler loves James Pants, punk rock, heavy metal, old school, Lil B, and processes like Lil B. Lil B himself dabbles in a lot of styles, though usually Hip Hop. Tyler has a large capacity for influence, so i wouldn't doubt him. There's also Hodgy, who, even though seems like a purist, loves Sabbath (as does Left Brain). Personally, i'm thrilled for the new Mellohype to come out, if it already hasn't (has it?).

Context is important for music, but i see what you mean about OF on its own. I think they're fairly creative in what they're doing, though, being so tolerant of each others difference in musical styles and influences; it's like an old utopia for Hip Hop minds to explore their limits in imagination. But (maybe) i'm just a fanboy.

Tyler's follow was as good or stronger than his debut, Mellohype's even more so. Mike needs a followup for sure, and Domo i can't judge yet. Earl will hopefully be a well aged artist by his release, practicing his craft and whatnot.

lulz at the skateboiz, i'm sorry if i offended you with my cut off shorts and volcom stones. : ))))

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv...2cpzo1_500.jpg
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv...2cpzo2_500.jpg
Odd Future/ASAP beef?

I heard Hodgy called dude "A$AP Copy," or that's what Pitchfork told me.

Oh how i love tyler.

Is anyone really surprised by this?


I'm more into the Mr.Mutha****ingeXquire-Asap Rocky beef.

I could see why other artists would hate him, he rapped pretty mediocrely over some clam casino beats and 4 months later he's touring with Drake.

Good to see them creating beefs to get publicity over twitter.

:bringit:

So all of a sudden everybody hates them? It's kind of funny because I've been gorging on Domo and Hodgy a lot the past couple of days.

Never liked them all that much. Rather Gravediggaz, Kool Keith or The Goodie Mob personally.

To be fair, it isn't all that hard to find something to hate. Just reading through Tyler's twitter account, I started to lose some respect for him. He's kind of a dumbass. I love OF though, the music is dope and the lyrics don't bother me one bit. Golf Wang \m/

I honestly couldn't care less about what they're like off the mic. If their music's good (which it is) and they're making it, I think they're entitled to my money even if they're complete dickheads.

I agree with you in that regard, just... I think their music is bog standard. So them being childish tossers just makes it worse.

Hodgy was killer on that, better than Tyler's verse for sure. Pusha T's always ill too.

Is this gonna be on Numbers, the new Mellohype joint?

Anyone else notice how much Hodgy has improved over the last year? Most of his verses on Bastard were pretty weak, and I always considered him to be pretty much the low point of the album, but I'll be damned, he's got some mad mic skillz now.

Imean compare this:


To this:


The difference is impressive.

Yeah, Hodgy's definitely come a long way. Even on Radical most of his tracks were fairly weak, but I think he's found his voice more in the last year or two.

has he been around for more then a year or 2?

Coming up to four years, I think. Radical was -10 and Goblin was -11.

The remastered and rearranged Blackenedwhite was a great showcase of Hodgy and Left Brain's talents together and individually. I agree about Hodgy coming up on my list of OF members, he used to be the bottom for me until i heard some of his better verses and utilization flow and rhyme scheme, and now his lyrics are even to come out of cryptic to clever.

How low was Hodgy on the list for you before? The very bottom?

Domo is still at the bottom of my list.

So you guys would put Jasper above Domo? Eh, whatever floats your boat.

Haha I doubt anybody were including him but I do like Jasper in small doses. I like his voice it's funny...

Pretty much. I wasn't listening to Domo or Mike G much but i thought their styles were more coherent and original (maybe not so much Domo there) than Hodgy's. Domo had a reeeealll smooth flow goin for him though. I need to listen to him more though. I love Mike G's style, especially his beat selection.

Ha, i don't think he counts, or else we'd have to involve Taco and even Left Brain when he raps on stuff like F the Police and Circus (i love his little verse on the latter).

Jasper so totally counts, if not just for his moment on this track:



That's a pretty good Domo track as well.

"Don't ever rap again." :laughing:

Left Brain is so dope when he gets on the mic. speaking of, opinions on this:

i dig

I like the internet song as a "parody" of pop music kinda. Also is that left brain on the mic at like 2 minutes?

That is one of my favorite non-Tyler OFWGKTA songs...

woah that song was dope. Which odd future person produced it?

This video should win some kind of "least accurate depiction of drug effects" award.

It's boring as.

He sounds cool when he eventually comes in, but if there was no video... I would have killed myself.

Was that really the intention of it?

I agree left brain was pretty dam boring on that song.

No idea. Maybe they were just trying to be ironic.

I don't think they were. They aren't geniuses, they just do what they want. Which is miles better than most mainstream garbage, even if I don't like it that much.

Lefty should probably stay away from the mic. Unlike Jasper and Taco, he's got proof of intelligence to fall back on (such as Transylvania, 64 etc.). Swag Me Out just wouldn't be the same without his awkward voice-recently-broken licks though.