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I dunno jackhammer, I got talking to a couple of friends and they both said they didnt think the above links you had were what they considered dubstep.
The below is what i consider dubstep:
Is this American or British? That for me is far too dancey to be considered dubstep but once again-we have our definitive Dubstep sound but I'm not going to post a bunch more vid's to convince you. In the U.K they are considered Dubstep and considering the first vid is Benga who you quoted as liking seems a little odd to be then dismissing it. I was only offering recommendations and if they don't fit in with your ideal with what is dubstep then no worries.
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