Hercules and Love Affair (singer, electronic, albums, freestylers, Chemical Brothers)

Expletive Deleted · 03-21-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I read the text and agree with it to a certain extent. But I'm not sure how H&LA come into it.

Apparently H&LA were reviewed by someone who "knows their shit"...\

I brought it up to point out how there's a huge disconnection between your average Pitchfork reader/indie fan, and members of the so-called "dance community."

To the average Pitchfork reader, them handing out a 9.1 to H&LA is outrageous, but to someone who supposedly "knows their ****," H&LA is a fantastic disco record that deserves all the praise it gets. Dance fans complain about Pitchfork overrating bad albums and underrating good ones, but it also works both ways. Philip Sherburne, being an active member of the dance community and someone with great taste, thinks H&LA is great, but the average Pitchfork reader probably can't figure out why Pitchfork thought some disco album deserved a 9.1 and a Best New Music mention.

Basically, if you really "appreciate" dance music, H&LA being given a 9.1 isn't that big a deal, but if you're not heavily involved in that scene you're probably just shaking your head wondering why they overrated H&LA so much.

adidasss · 03-21-2008, 03:36 PM

I'm not sure they really fit into the electro music scene. This is no minimal house or whatever the fuck that would have your average indie Joe (like myself) scratching their head as to why anyone would listen to it. I like this album, I think some songs are fantastic, but you'd be hard pressed to sell the aforementioned trio of songs as good under the pretense that I just don't "appreciate" dance music and/or am not "heavily involved in the scene". It's just bad music, period. :\

Expletive Deleted · 03-21-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss

I'm not sure they really fit into the electro music scene. This is no minimal house or whatever the fuck that would have your average indie Joe (like myself) scratching their head as to why anyone would listen to it. I like this album, I think some songs are fantastic, but you'd be hard pressed to sell the aforementioned trio of songs as good under the pretense that I just don't "appreciate" dance music and/or am not "heavily involved in the scene". It's just bad music, period. :\

It is heavily steeped in dance culture, because the average indie Joe probably isn't going to enjoy a disco album except for the irony factor.

Plus, if you read Sherburne's review, he does think those are good songs, so difference in tastes aside, you probably could make an argument that someone more involved in the scene does think those songs are good, and not "bad music, period." I have yet to hear anyone else really weigh in on those songs in particular though, so maybe Sherburne is alone liking those.

Also, a lot of this album really would fit right in with what a lot of big name DJs are doing these days, so I'd say it has more in common with the "electro scene" than it does with Pitchfork indie.

enemyat_thesix · 03-22-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted

MNML SSGS had a really great blog post about Pitchfork (and other "indie" magazines') misrepresentation of dance music (for them EDM doesn't really exist outside of DFA, Kompakt, Bpitch Control, etc.), and I think their reaction to H&LA is a great example of that.

spot on. this is the main beef i have with pitchfork. thanks for posting that article, it was very enjoyable

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who wants to take E and listen to ‘doof doof doof’ when you can get drunk and dance around with (admittedly better looking) indie girls on the sauce while the DJ plays the Yeah Yeah Yeahs’ ‘Maps’. You can mouth ‘they don’t love you like I love you’ at her while you crack fat over the thought of Karen O’s sweat, torso and lipstick.

lol

i, too, think sound of silver was vastly overrated

sleepy jack · 03-23-2008, 03:44 PM

I don't really think its up for debate whether or not Sounds of Silver was overrated. That album was on nearly every list and no one would shut up about it from the time it leaked until...well they still won't. I kept/keep getting bugged to listen to it despite the fact I'd say I didn't care for it.

adidasss · 03-23-2008, 05:37 PM

But but...Antony!

sleepy jack · 03-23-2008, 05:38 PM

I wasn't bashing Antony I was bashing LCD Soundsystem. Antony is jesus<333

adidasss · 03-23-2008, 05:50 PM

Oh...well damn it man, quote the text you're referring to...

sleepy jack · 03-23-2008, 05:53 PM

It was right above me so I didn't have to it's kind of implied, n00b.

adidasss · 03-23-2008, 05:58 PM

No it isn't! And YOU'RE a n00b.

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adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	I'm not sure they really fit into the electro music scene. This is no minimal house or whatever the fuck that would have your average indie Joe (like myself) scratching their head as to why anyone would listen to it. I like this album, I think some songs are fantastic, but you'd be hard pressed to sell the aforementioned trio of songs as good under the pretense that I just don't "appreciate" dance music and/or am not "heavily involved in the scene". It's just bad music, period. :\ __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

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adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	Oh...well damn it man, quote the text you're referring to... __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm

03-23-2008, 05:58 PM	#20 (permalink)
adidasss Slavic gay sauce Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 7,993	No it isn't! And YOU'RE a n00b. __________________ “Think of what a paradise this world would be if men were kind and wise.” - Kurt Vonnegut, Cat's Cradle. Last.fm