thegoldlaw

I didn't think this was much of an issue but after having a converation with a bunch of people I found a bunch of very distinct viewpoints as to what ambient music was and some of which contradicted others.

What are your viewpoints as to what makes ambient music? Is it not isolated to electronical? is it the focal point on sounds rather then notes? Is is music with no distinct sounds? Anything that is background music?

Those were some of the examples I can recall people saying.

mr dave

hmm interesting topic.

i'd say it's an amalgamation of the views you present.

for myself the background aspect of it is very crucial. for the most part, good ambient music shouldn't feature any real jarring or bombastic elements. it's something i find good to listen to while trying to get to sleep but not necessarily specific to background music, a cinematic score is not necessarily ambient.

i wouldn't call it specific to electronic music either, although it's predominantly made with electronics. generally speaking ambient music that isn't made with electronics usually gets dumped into the 'shoegaze' genre.

i think the idea of the focus being on sounds over notes is spot on. i don't necessarily agree that it's music without distinctive sound though. if anything i think too many musicians are conditioned to perform based on the instrument they use, as in if you pick up a guitar you're 'supposed' to play guitar (ie: chords or riffs or lead).

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euphoria z

Ambient music evolved from the experimental electronic music of '70s synth-based artists like Brian Eno and Kraftwerk, and the trance-like techno dance music of the '80s. Ambient is a spacious, electronic music that is concerned with sonic texture, not songwriting or composing. It's frequently repetitive and it all sounds the same to the casual listener, even though there are quite significant differences between the artists. Ambient became a popular cult music in the early '90s, thanks to ambient-techno artists like the Orb and Aphex Twin.

Blue

These are the liner notes to Eno's first album in his ambient series (Music for Airports).


"The concept of music designed specifically as a background feature in the environment was pioneered by Muzak Inc. in the fifties, and has since come to be known generically by the term Muzak. The connotations that this term carries are those particularly associated with the kind of material that Muzak Inc. produces - familiar tunes arranged and orchestrated in a lightweight and derivative manner. Understandably, this has led most discerning listeners (and most composers) to dismiss entirely the concept of environmental music as an idea worthy of attention.

Over the past three years, I have become interested in the use of music as ambience, and have come to believe that it is possible to produce material that can be used thus without being in any way compromised. To create a distinction between my own experiments in this area and the products of the various purveyors of canned music, I have begun using the term Ambient Music.

An ambience is defined as an atmosphere, or a surrounding influence: a tint. My intention is to produce original pieces ostensibly (but not exclusively) for particular times and situations with a view to building up a small but versatile catalogue of environmental music suited to a wide variety of moods and atmospheres.

Whereas the extant canned music companies proceed from the basis of regularizing environments by blanketing their acoustic and atmospheric idiosyncracies, Ambient Music is intended to enhance these. Whereas conventional background music is produced by stripping away all sense of doubt and uncertainty (and thus all genuine interest) from the music, Ambient Music retains these qualities. And whereas their intention is to `brighten' the environment by adding stimulus to it (thus supposedly alleviating the tedium of routine tasks and levelling out the natural ups and downs of the body rhythms) Ambient Music is intended to induce calm and a space to think.

Ambient Music must be able to accomodate many levels of listening attention without enforcing one in particular; it must be as ignorable as it is interesting."

-Brian Eno

thegoldlaw

Orb and Aphex are IDM

mr dave

way to plagiarize poopsniffer

http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:226

and while aphex twin is far better known as an IDM pioneer, his selected ambient work albums are top notch. SAW2 is still a fantastic listen.

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euphoria z

Um, yeah how about primary sources?

thegoldlaw

This excludes alot of aphex, because its notorious for being both jarring and bombastic.

This includes alot of aphex twins because most of his sounds are extremely abstract and not used by others. And his beats are almost never polished rather randomly thrown around.

So with what you said above is aphex more or less ambient because those 2 lines seem to suggest he is and isnt ambient @ the same time.

euphoria z

He's a walking contradiction; and a moron. Just ignore him.

jackhammer

Exactly what will be happening to you if you carry on name calling. It's not the first time I have read some disparaging comments from yourself in your very short stay here.

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